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gonamok
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dont make me come over there
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Feb 19, 2012 - 11:14pm PT
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Does anybody know anything about the park boundary/park rules sign next to the road by the television screen? Since when is Woodson a park?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 20, 2012 - 12:02am PT
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Rules? At Woodson?! wtf.
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gonamok
climber
dont make me come over there
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Feb 20, 2012 - 03:05am PT
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All i see in the Poway trails guide is the trail from lake poway to the summit on the west side, nothing about the paved road up the east side where the sign is posted. I dont think any of the east side or the road is within Poway city limits
The last I heard, woodson was owned by the state, and designated as public open space. The CDF camp at the base indicates that it is state controlled land. The county owns the access easment and the road, but rights to the road as well as the land under the installments on the summit are leased by private companies long term. The city of Ramona also has some jurisdiction. This was spelled out during the access crisis back in the 80s.
Apparently there has been a change, and it would be nice to know what that is.
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad surfing the galactic plane
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Feb 20, 2012 - 04:13pm PT
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So...
Time for another list.
Hardest five(5)problems/tr's on The hill?
edit: just hardest five period. but personal ex could be used as a qualifier!
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snake pliskin
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Feb 20, 2012 - 04:49pm PT
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Hardest five you've personally sent?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 20, 2012 - 06:32pm PT
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Now just waitaminnut goddamit I haven't finished my "10 Best" list yet.
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ATS
Social climber
escondido, ca
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Feb 20, 2012 - 08:46pm PT
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad surfing the galactic plane
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Feb 20, 2012 - 09:13pm PT
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does that sign say anything about no doobies allowed?
edit: cuz i sure don't wanna be breakin any new laws next time i go up thar.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 20, 2012 - 09:46pm PT
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wtf. does this park have a name? do we know what agency administers it? who is responsible for cultural and natural resource management? are there partols of any kind, ever? is it a county park, a city park, a state park? there's NOTHIN' on that sign that gives a clue. i coulda piched a sign like that and posted it as a joke.
i say we get vandalize it, pronto. how DARE they!
think i'll do some internet snoopin'.
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F10
Trad climber
Bishop
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Feb 20, 2012 - 10:15pm PT
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Check with the "ballcuppers" maybe they know something... ? ?
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad surfing the galactic plane
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Feb 20, 2012 - 10:19pm PT
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the bottom box says 'park boundary'..so does that mean you can pitch a tent, let your dog go unleashed, smoke a doob, etc. just before the sign..what a dumb fookin' sign/rules.
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gonamok
climber
dont make me come over there
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Feb 20, 2012 - 10:21pm PT
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This thing is right in your wheelhouse bob, I think you know a little something about parks, hope you can dig something up. The only clues on the sign regarding jurisdiction are the municipal codes cited with each regulation. State? County? City? Boy Scouts? It doesnt say. Pretty inept to post rules with no number to call for information or to report violations, unlikely in fact.
So are we dealing with a hoax? Hmmmm. Steal a sign, poke it in the dirt at woodson and watch the locals go apesh#t......it would certainly be a good one. The location is very strange too, a park boundary sign with no gate or fence in sight. Very fishy.
I have to believe that an EIR, solicitation of public input and a public posting, at minimum, would precede the creation of any kind of park, especially since it could be argued that the public holds eminent domain after decades of unfettered access.
The most prudent course of action is to tear the sign up, toss it into the pond and see what kind of response it generates (note, i am NOT advocating illegal, immoral or unsanitary activities).
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gonamok
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dont make me come over there
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Feb 20, 2012 - 10:31pm PT
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Hmm hardest 5....
Theres 1)that heinous face climb to a highball mantle thing in those boulders kinda by jaws, 2)this spooky ass lieback flake me and rick found down in the bushes by a big orange rock, 3)This ridiculously hard thing Greg showed me over by pruneface way back when, 4)a pinch n yank dyno thing on the south slope that I cranked once when I was sportin a sick hone....I cant think of a 5th one
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad surfing the galactic plane
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Feb 20, 2012 - 10:32pm PT
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"Next to the road by the television screen"
that's a good distance up the road from the practice boulder, etc.!
why wait until there...part way up the lower part of the road.
very fishy looking...besides being fookin' stoopid.
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad surfing the galactic plane
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Feb 20, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
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addendum: hardest 5 with names...
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Feb 20, 2012 - 10:45pm PT
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Speaking of mysterious signs...about two years ago, Santee sported a "27 acres For Sale" sign up by the EB boulder one day. I found it disassembled another day and dragged the 4x4 posts down to the trash cans in the park below. Legit or not I never found out, but it never reemerged after that.
When I helped organize the Woodson Shindig, the Black Mountain open space rangers in Rancho Penasquitos was it (?) gave me the key to the gate at the bottom of the hill. Maybe they would have some information on that sign for he told me then that they monitored that area.
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gonamok
climber
dont make me come over there
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Feb 20, 2012 - 10:50pm PT
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Oh...names
Speaking of which, nobodys about to bite on another obscure route I threw out there, so Ill spill the beans.
The pic is of The Terminator, V3/4 - a super clean thing I found low on the south slope sometime in the 80's. Ask Horvath, he put up a new face problem on that boulder a couple months ago.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Feb 20, 2012 - 10:57pm PT
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Heck, I don't rate to list my hardest five but humility is good:
1. Driving South
2. I Would Die For You
3. I Hear My Train A Comin'
4. Go With The Flow
5. Mother Superior
Edit: 5.10a On The Outside is considered to be harder than GWTF but the latter was harder for me.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Feb 20, 2012 - 10:59pm PT
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Is that Laverne Ron?
Edit: I see I'm a hair late on my response.
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