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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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If they released the video, that would be remarkable.
Cause the story that OBL used a woman as a human shield is just too convenient to make him look like a coward.
Remember Jessica Lynches rescue, where the military claimed a daring rescue against a defended compound where really it was completely undefended and the "enemy" had actually tried to return her earlier but been shot at?
Or how about Tilman's death
Even there's plenty of evidence we didn't get the truth about the time and circumstances of Saddam's capture.
I neither believe not disbelieve anything I hear about this operation. The military has lately proved they care nothing for truth but just make up stories of convenience.
Maybe we'll never know, but this should be an interesting show coming up.
Wonder what "Al Queda" will say? Not that I trust them either. The US basically created them to fight the soviets in Afghanistan
Peace
Karl
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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No one who knows anything about this thinks that OBL planned the 9/11 attack.
And you call other people ignorant . . .
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Isn't blahblah right about this?
OBL may have taken credit for 911 after it was all over.
But what's his name Saudi mastermind was captured and admitted he planned it all.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Cause the story that OBL used a woman as a human shield is just too convenient to make him look like a coward.
karl, i have seen reports that the woman was used as a shield by one of the other terrorists not OBL. have you read differently or are you talking out your ass?
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monolith
climber
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Yep, Karl's just creating the story he wants to ridicule.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Just referencing other people's ass talking higher on this thread
Peace
Karl
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Can we go home now?
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Just referencing other people's ass talking higher on this thread
ahhhhh.....it was posted on supertopo so it must be true! i feel better now.
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Mangy Peasant
Social climber
Riverside, CA
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In July 2008, CNN's Larry King interviewed then-presidential candidate John McCain. The host asked the Republican senator, "If you were president and knew that bin Laden was in Pakistan, you know where, would you have U.S. forces go in after him?"
McCain said he would not.
"Larry, I'm not going to go there and here's why: because Pakistan is a sovereign nation."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/28/lkl.01.html
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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proof that fattards repugnants are sissies.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Hawkeye wrote
karl, i have seen reports that the woman was used as a shield by one of the other terrorists not OBL. have you read differently or are you talking out your ass?
THis posted on CNN today
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/02/obama-to-make-statment-tonight-subject-unknown/?hpt=T1
[Updated 2:30 p.m. ET] A woman shielded Osama bin Laden from gunfire during the assault by U.S. forces, President Barack Obama's top counterterrorism adviser said Monday.
"There was a female who was in fact in the line of fire that reportedly was used as a shield to shield bin Laden from the incoming fire," said John Brennan, Obama's adviser on homeland security and counterterrorism.
Brennan said it was his understanding that bin Laden picked up a weapon and was killed in the firefight with the U.S. forces carrying out the assault.
"He was engaged in a firefight," Brennan said of bin Laden. "Whether or not he got off any rounds, I don't know."
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Rock!...oopsie.
Trad climber
the pitch above you
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But Ron, Pak is an important ally. We need their cooperation to make sure that countries like N. Korea don't get nukes... oops.
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monolith
climber
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Doesn't say Bin Laden used her as a shield, Karl. Just that she was in the way, or acted as a shield voluntarily, or was used by someone else. She was one of the wives, so she might have done something stupid to help.
Also, a woman was killed when one of the al Qaida operatives used her as a human shield, White House officials said.
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Gene
climber
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The news conference dude said he used her as a shield and indicated in a round about way (that was a painful pun, so too was this) that she took a bullet too. At least that's what I seemed to hear.
I thought speaker-man kinda waffled on that and indicated that maybe (1) she was a shield by choice, (2) OBL put her in the line of fire, or (3) she was between OBL and the shooters and thus was killed. One of OBL’s wives I think(?).
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Our country (and some others as well) are killing innocent people every day in our wars, even in countries that didn't attack us. Bin Laden was "evil" in some way, killing innocents on 9-11 (although we've seen precious little evidence of his involvement), but we turned him into a bogyman to support killing far more innocents than he ever dreamed of.
But let's stop being evil, killing innocents in the way Bin Laden did. He had his "justifications" pointing to US foreign Policies oppressing Islamic countries and we have ours. Every time we support an oppressive king or dictator in the middle east, we give justification to terrorists to fight us. (what would we do if somehow the middle east somehow installed a dictator here?)
And yet we use terrorist acts here to justify endless wars in other countries, thinking that's justified. We believe what we want to believe and have incredible double standards.
We place such importance on these symbols like Bin Laden. The wheels of economic empire backed by military force keep turning and use bogymen like him to keep public opinion behind the bombing.
Bye Bye Bin Laden, former CIA operative. You were replaced by Saddam Hussien in 2003 anway when we wanted a new war, and just became a mystery. Now we have Gaddafi (but not the Saudi King)
We're told who is the demon and focus on that. It's a puppet shadow play even if the demon is actually bad. Who dies and whose country gets bombed are different matters
Peace
Karl
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WBraun
climber
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People believe everything they read in the news.
Such sheep.
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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Karl - well put, but as its often said 'The Show Must Go On!'
If it wasn't this particular puppet show it'd be another.
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