Discussion Topic |
|
This thread has been locked |
TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 01:09am PT
|
today in santa cruz harbor, continuing tsunami surges, 31 known sunk boats, unknown location for most, some probably swept out to sea, some still surging back and forth in the channel, many docks and boats just gone
another busy day tomorrow
|
|
LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 01:13am PT
|
I just saw on CNN that the quake appears to have moved the entire island of Japan 8 ft and has shifted the axis of the earth.
|
|
neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 01:26am PT
|
hey there say, lucky pink thanks for sharing this... i dont have tv news...
also, say, tom, lighter news, i know, but:
thanks for the santa cruz picks... i needed to know about my brother walt's boat, too, but i think someone already found out for him...
thanks again..
:)
|
|
neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 01:29am PT
|
hey there say, tom... i must have missed something? do you work there at the harbor... ?
do you have a picture from dock "m"...
thanks for any share you have...
:)
|
|
TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 01:37am PT
|
the USCG has stepped in and taken over from harbor mgmt and hired a big san francisco contractor who is shouldering aside local contractors
they have locked down the harbor and won't let anyone sail in or out or even go see their boat
they are planning to stack up the sunk boats and take them to a land fill and charge each owner $10,000 for not hiring a private contractor to take care of the salvage operation
if the boat owner manages to hire a local contractor before 8:00 tomorrow morning, the cost will be a fraction of that
i do have some access as a friend of a local salvage company, so if you tell me a slip number or boat name or CF number, i'll try to check it out
Edit: the surge swept up the channel and literally tossed the boats up in the air and then dropped them. some boats were left laying on their sides in the mud, and then the surge came back in and swamped them. a lot of boats are still there, but damaged. Some of the docks are just not there any more and pieces of docks are rushing around on the tsunami swells that just keep going all day. the divers keep having to jump out of the water as the swells become too strong
Edit: I did walk along M dock this afternoon, and it and the boats seemed pretty much ok. There is one sunk boat on the end tie for P dock. The worst damage seemed to be in the upper harbor where the energy of the tsunami ran our of room. I talked to one boat owner who watched as his boat was swept from the upper harbor all the way to the harbor entrance and back again, and survived with very little damage,.
|
|
neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 01:50am PT
|
hey there say, tom... i am calling my brother walt, now... say, who shall i say you are, as to "harbor info" etc...
do you work there, usually, then...?
thanks...
:)
|
|
Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 01:52am PT
|
One obvious question that has occurred to me in retrospect, is why the nuclear reactors were built on the Pacific side of Japan where the tectonic plates meet and the major earthquakes and tsunamis happen?
I can only think that it was for economy and convenience as the main north south highway goes there along with the bullet train. In retrospect this was a false saving.
|
|
TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 01:55am PT
|
i'm a boat owner and friend of the Vessel Assist people
is 'Walt' aka 'Ice Man' the master diver? if so we are already friends
|
|
neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 01:55am PT
|
hey there say, jan... oh my... i kind of had wondered that a bit, too, but then since i dont live there like you do, i just let it slide as to my "personal curiosty as to such things"...
thanks for the share...
i wonder even more, now, what perhaps the reasons were, as the japanese have been so very careful to prepare in other respects...
could it be that some other kind of storm, or bad weather come in from the west, that are yearly, or wintery, persistant??? i have no clue, as to their weather, etc...
thanks again...
|
|
neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 01:56am PT
|
hey there tom... .neat... thanks so very much...
>:D<
i am calling him...
:)
|
|
neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 01:57am PT
|
hey there say, .... awww, and i know you are a supertopo climber poster, too....
:))
say, i sure hope YOUR boat was okay...
forgive me for not even thinking to ask you yet...
you seemed to sound okay, so i just assumed you were... :(
very sorry for being so rude... :)
god blesss...
:)
|
|
Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 01:58am PT
|
The reactor in trouble was built in 1970 just when their economy and need for electricity really heated up, so my guess is that they went for the fastest cheapest solution to more electrical power.
I've always been disappointed that the Japanese did not pioneer in using ocean power. Of all countries they have the most to benefit from harnessing the waves and tides.
|
|
Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 03:02am PT
|
And now even worse news from the New York Times.
TOKYO — Japanese officials struggled on Sunday to contain a widening nuclear crisis in the aftermath of a devastating earthquake and tsunami, saying they presumed that partial meltdowns had occurred at two crippled reactors and that they were facing serious cooling problems at three more.
|
|
TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 03:05am PT
|
my boat is fine
i cruised out to sea early friday morning and spent the night out there listening to all the crazy radio traffic in the harbor, and then went back to dock in moss landing this morning
Edit:
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/us?guid=20110312/6722075d-4307-4818-8b33-ba0030c1a641
Tsunami surge deals blow to struggling Calif. town
JEFF BARNARD
From Associated Press
March 12, 2011 8:49 PM EST
CRESCENT CITY, Calif. (AP) — Fishermen who had escaped to sea before the tsunami hit this struggling coastal town landed small loads of crab on Saturday, while crews surveyed damage and a family combed the beach for any sign of a man who was swept away a day ago as he photographed the waves.
"This harbor is the lifeblood of our community and the soul of our community," said Del Norte County Sheriff Dean Wilson as he looked across what was left of the Crescent City boat basin, which last year saw landings of crab and fish worth $12.5 million. "The fishing industry is the identity and soul of this community, besides tourism."
The region has never recovered from the loss of the timber industry in the 1980s and 1990s, and downturns in salmon fishing, said Wilson, who fished on his father's boats as a young man.
"It's going to be hard to recover here," he said.
A series of powerful surges generated by the devastating earthquake in Japan arrived about 7:30 a.m. Friday and pounded the harbor through the day and night. Eight boats were believed sunk and dozens of others damaged; an unmanned sailboat sucked out of the harbor ran aground on the coast.
About 20 miles south, the family of a 25-year-old Oregon man combed the beach looking for signs of him. Authorities say Dustin Weber was swept away as he and two friends photographed the waves.
"He just didn't respect the ocean and didn't understand the tsunami," his father, Jon Weber, said. "The (first surge) hit about 7:30. It was the second wave that hit at 9:30 that got him."
Back north in Crescent City, crews geared up for the enormous task of assessing and fixing the damage to the port, where a sheen of oil floated in the basin. Seagulls feasted on mussels exposed by upended docks. About 80 percent of the docks that once sheltered 140 boats were gone.
"Our port is struggling," said Kevin Wilson, manager of Nor-Cal Seafood Inc. "Since the last tsunami in '06, they secured the funds to fix it, and this took away all the stuff they were gonna build off."
Crab fisherman Lee Wilson returned to find his boat, the Gold Coast, mostly unscathed. It has survived its second tsunami — the first, a 1964 swarm that killed 11 in the city, had pushed it up on the rocks of the break wall.
Despite the severity of the damage that has drawn curious onlookers to survey the port even in the rain, Kevin Wilson has returned to business. He bought crab from fishermen who decided to work after leaving in the early Friday darkness to escape the waves.
"We've been down here in hurricane-force winds before, and we'll keep working," he said.
For the crews tasked with repairs, it would be a longer wait. Divers could not go into the water and workboats could not maneuver until the tsunami surges end, said Alexia Retallack, a spokeswoman for the California Department of Fish and Game. Local officials were keeping a close eye on Japan through the weekend, in case aftershocks cause another tidal surge.
About 350 miles south in Santa Cruz, the only other California harbor hard-hit by the waves, the commercial fishing industry was minimally affected. Most of the 850 boats were pleasure boats, including 60 that are lived in full-time.
Cranes hauled up sunken boats — some possibly salvageable, others snapped into pieces — while crews in life jackets and rubber boots waded near the shore, yanking chunks of broken docks, floating hunks of foam and other trash from the water.
Port Director Lisa Ekers said the tsunami caused at least $17.1 million in damage to the harbor, and another $4 million to private boats. Gov. Jerry Brown issued an emergency declaration for the harbor, which can expedite funding for repairs.
One dock, with close to 40 boats, was ripped out during the surges. So far, they found 18 vessels "sitting on the bottom," creating an environmental risk from leaking fuel, Ekers said.
A dock-load of high-end rowing boats and kayaks also was washed away, and dozens more boats that smashed into each other or were hit by debris, would need major repairs.
Across the ocean in Hawaii, the waves damaged at least 60 homes, sank up to 15 boats, and battered hundreds of vessels. But authorities said they were thankful there was no loss of life or injuries reported; residents had hours to prepare or evacuate as the tsunami rushed from Japan at 500 mph.
Santa Cruz Deputy Police Chief Steve Clark said that in addition to evacuating residents in low-lying areas, his officers had to do crowd control as townspeople gathered to watch the swells.
"A tsunami watch doesn't mean go watch the tsunami," he said.
On a boat ride through the harbor, Assistant Harbormaster Larry White pointed to buckled piers, snapped masts and hulls of flipped boats bobbing in the brown, pungent water, which rose and fell in usually strong swells generated in Japan.
He shook his head, remembering the moment when the tsunami first sucked the water out of the harbor out to sea — a sudden 9-foot drop.
"It was like the earth opening up," he said. "It was incredible."
|
|
TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 03:45am PT
|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami
The 2011 Sendai earthquake and tsunami (東北地方太平洋沖地震, Tōhoku Chihō Taiheiyō-oki Jishin[6]?, literally "Tōhoku region Pacific Ocean offshore earthquake") was a 9.0MW[7][2] megathrust earthquake off the coast of Japan that occurred at 05:46 UTC (14:46 local time) on 11 March 2011.[8][9] The epicenter was reported to be 130 kilometers (81 mi) off the east coast of the Oshika Peninsula, Tōhoku, with the hypocenter at a depth of 24.4 kilometers (15.2 mi).[10][11]
The earthquake triggered tsunami warnings and evacuations from Japan's Pacific coast and at least 20 countries, including the entire Pacific coast of North America and South America.[12][13][14] The earthquake created tsunami waves of up to 10 meters (33 ft) that struck Japan, with smaller waves in many other countries.[9] In Japan, the waves are reported to have travelled up to 10 kilometers (6 mi) inland.[15]
There have been more than 637 reported deaths and at least 10,000[3][4] people reported missing in six prefectures.[16] The earthquake caused extensive damage in Japan, including heavy damage to roads and railways as well as fires in many areas, and a dam collapse. Around 4.4 million households in northeastern Japan were left without electricity and 1.4 million without water.[17] Many electrical generators were taken down, and at least two nuclear reactors partially[18] melted down,[19][18] which prompted evacuations of the affected areas,[20] and a state of emergency was established. The Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant experienced an explosion almost 24 hours after the initial earthquake; however, while the blast caused the collapse of the concrete outer containment building, it was reported that the integrity of the inner core-containment vessel was not compromised.[21][22][17] Residents within a 20-kilometer (12 mi) radius of the Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant and a 10-kilometer (6.2 mi) radius of the Fukushima II Nuclear Power Plant were evacuated.
The estimates of the Sendai earthquake's magnitude made it the most powerful earthquake to hit Japan and one of the five most powerful earthquakes in the world overall since modern record-keeping began.[23][24][25] It is thought to have been the largest earthquake within the boundaries of the North American and Pacific tectonic plates in 1,200 years.[26]
|
|
sempervirens
climber
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 03:49am PT
|
Tom,
Why is it that going out to sea is safe while the tsunami is approaching? That is interesting.
|
|
Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 03:52am PT
|
The Japanese police have now estimated at least 10,000 dead in Miyagi prefecture alone.
|
|
neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
|
|
Mar 13, 2011 - 05:14am PT
|
hey there say, tom... nope, walt is not him, however, walter is a bit "famous" hee hee... :)
he is walter chapman of "CHAPMAN DESIGN" los altos...
he has done many homes in those areas...
*and he is brother to ol' chappy (from yosemite climbing days), too, haha... :)
as i am .... :)
say, now that you reposted it, i DO remember you saying you were going to take your boat out before the tsunami hit...
glad to see it all worked out...
:)
*say, my brother's friend said that friday night the water seemed quiet and still in the harbor, so he is curious if there are swells suddenly, or if they just did not show up in the main harbor?
me, i didn't know what to say, so i am curious, too... :)
i told him, perhaps you meant the churning under the surface??
which was perhaps an ooops...
ALSO:
thank you all for posting that added info on the nuclear plants, as where they built and possibly, why...
|
|
|
SuperTopo on the Web
|