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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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Jan 11, 2011 - 05:23pm PT
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I realize plans are still emerging for actual production, but just as was done with the A5 Hammer Project, might I suggest factoring a few free drills for deserving individuals into the cost. I am thinking people like Roger Brown and Greg Barnes who are doing a great service for climbers everywhere. Just a thought.
Bruce
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Luke Malatesta
Big Wall climber
Moab UT
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2011 - 06:09pm PT
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Bruce,
Thats a good idea. I guess we will see how much everything will come out to and how many will sell and if it is something that can be factored in....still would like to get shipping, processing fees, etc all included. Trying to keep It with in the target price.
I'll start a new thread later this week or early next week which will have a more formal list that can hopefully grow as the building starts.
I did just talk to the shop on the phone and the proto went out UPS today! Threads came out nice and everything held tolerances well. They did say that after heat treatment it took on more of a brown color.
Thanks,
Luke
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Jan 11, 2011 - 07:02pm PT
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A word of caution... Do NOT take drill number requests!
You
Will
Be
Sorry...
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Luke Malatesta
Big Wall climber
Moab UT
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2011 - 07:14pm PT
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SImon,
Truer words have not hit this thread. I agree....They will all be the same, no numbering system.
Only Numbers I am counting are number of drills to be sold.
Luke
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Caz
Big Wall climber
Long Beach, CA.
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Jan 11, 2011 - 07:54pm PT
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I'd be interested for sure. I don't own a drill cause I can't find one that fits my hand. The Petzl bites my hand. I use my friends Hurricane a while a go and it was perfect!
I need a drill to go with my new D5 hammer!!!
Let me know...
Zac
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Luke Malatesta
Big Wall climber
Moab UT
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2011 - 08:57pm PT
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Zac,
Sounds good.
Luke
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 11, 2011 - 09:33pm PT
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And if heat treating is involved then don't mark anything until AFTER it is treated.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jan 11, 2011 - 09:48pm PT
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I want one.
Tried to replace mine last year abut couldn't find ne in decent shape.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Jan 11, 2011 - 09:51pm PT
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They did say that after heat treatment it took on more of a brown color.
My hurricane is more of a brownish color as well.
I am down for a drill and 2 wrench sets Luke.
Mucci
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 11, 2011 - 09:55pm PT
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I'd also say count on at least some not making it through heat treat - would have no idea what percentage, but would probably put in at least a bit of buffer. After talking with some folks up here who do aerospace heat treating and also deal with how large titanium structures cool (turbine hubs and blades), apparently it appears to still be a bit of a black art where no one really commits 100% to specific numerical outcomes of either hardness or bad parts.
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Luke Malatesta
Big Wall climber
Moab UT
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2011 - 10:13pm PT
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healyje,
Good to know...I am glad to hear that others may have taken on a brown color as well...The drill I have is made out of titanium so no point of referance for me to look @. Right now as it stand I think I will have a few drills on hand for a while....But everyone moved those hammers quickly so who knows.
Gonna be a cool week....Getting my D5's hopefully, drill proto may be here by friday...Weather is looking better..
Mucci- noted....I need to go back through all the posts and e-mails with a fine tooth comb and start a better list.
On a side note the custom wrench I was thinking about having made is not going to cost much more....Like less than a dollar more....which is nice.
Luke
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Greg Barnes
climber
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Jan 11, 2011 - 10:40pm PT
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Luke, the ASCA would like at least a couple dozen of those wrenches - to send to active rebolters all over the place!
(if you are going to increase the number of wrenches, the ASCA would like 50 - we like to plan ahead when we find a good deal, particularly on something that is so essential and can save weight!)
Cool project!
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Luke Malatesta
Big Wall climber
Moab UT
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2011 - 11:05pm PT
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Greg.
Sounds good....I will include those in the production run.
Luke
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Luke Malatesta
Big Wall climber
Moab UT
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2011 - 06:37pm PT
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Mini update.
Grips are ordered! They are black and should be here around when the rest of the drills are due (2-7-11).
Last thing to figure out are the collets (waiting on a quote)... and I think that should be is as far as spending goes!
Then time to have an assemble-a-thon.
Luke
Edit.
I will have a final price as soon as I nail down this rather large collet order.
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Luke Malatesta
Big Wall climber
Moab UT
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 14, 2011 - 09:37pm PT
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22 Grips arrived today...The rest are paid for and getting made now.
Tracking shows the proto will be here Monday.
Here are a few pictures.
Luke
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adatesman
climber
philadelphia, pa
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Jan 18, 2011 - 01:37pm PT
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@Luke & Minerals-
Probably best if we keep the side discussion re: my design here to not clutter the new thread...?
Anyway, I got the first one assembled this morning...
The overall length is 4.75" and it comes in at a hair over 9 ounces with a 1/4" collet installed and lacking the wrist loop (weight of that depends if you go with cord or wire). The grip is 3.75" long, not including the flange. Here's an exploded view:
The ring above the collet is a new piece not included in my earlier drawings, which prevents hand pressure from squeezing the grip down on the collet nut (and thereby interfere with the spring action). I still need to put the flats on the striking piece and heat treat this one, but otherwise it's done. The other two still need the flats on the shank, flats on the striking piece, the end of the sleeve pocketed and the new grip ring made, as well as the heat treating. I'm hoping to get them finished this week, so they should be in your hands next week sometime.
Oh, and here's a video of the spring action: Link
We're in the middle of an ice storm at the moment, so I can't take it out to play with. I did however start a 1/4" hole in the concrete floor of my workshop and it seems the combination of the grip and spring works pretty well for isolating your hand from the impact, even if you have the tip of the drill pulled back from the bottom of the hole a bit.
I'll let you know when I get the other two finished and out your way.
-aric.
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Luke Malatesta
Big Wall climber
Moab UT
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2011 - 01:59pm PT
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Aric,
Looks great! Can't wait to give it a run. Seems like I am going to be doing a lot of hammering over the next month.
Luke
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Slakkey
Big Wall climber
From Back to Big Wall Baby
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Jan 18, 2011 - 02:04pm PT
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I still would like one as well great job of getting this off the ground Luke
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Irisharehere
Trad climber
Gunks
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Jan 18, 2011 - 02:31pm PT
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Luke, I'll pony up for one
Pete
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