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jnn
Trad climber
ny
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Jul 17, 2011 - 08:25am PT
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Hey, cool classic gear. dont surpose you want to sell the CMI RoKJoX by any chance.
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frog-e
Trad climber
Imperial Beach California
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Jul 17, 2011 - 11:03am PT
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an amazing thread.
Some of the prototypes and obscurities posted are truly great. But in my own mind, the greatest all time piece of "gear that didn't catch on"?
The Forrest Roll Your Own, chock. That one takes the cake.
Great stuff everyone - TFP.
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jaaan
Trad climber
Chamonix, France
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Jul 17, 2011 - 11:38am PT
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Here's Simond's contribution to the utterly useless list: The French should really stick to bolts...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 26, 2011 - 01:36am PT
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Did anybody ever use these? They look like they might have been halfway decent.
Aug '76 "Off Belay"
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Jul 26, 2011 - 01:38am PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 26, 2011 - 01:41am PT
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Dood, HOV lanes did catch on. On the other hand those backseat drivers...
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Jul 26, 2011 - 03:06am PT
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jaaan, this nut has not been made by Simond. It’s a Six-Coin made by New Alp (Jean-Paul Fréchin), in 1984.
Tubes (1984) #1 to #5
Tricoins (1984) #1 #2 #3
Six-Coin (1984)
Bicam Mécanique (1986) #1
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jaaan
Trad climber
Chamonix, France
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Jul 26, 2011 - 05:25am PT
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Knowing your background Stéphane, I suspect you're right! I've just looked at them again and can find no identification on them. I seemed to remember that these things were made in Cham and assumed - I don't know why - that they were Simond - maybe the colour.... I think we can agree though, that they are useless. If you look at my photo you'll see that I used one of them winter climbing in Scotland. Even with the aid of a hammer it was crap!
To my mind, NewAlp's finest contribution to climbing gear was the Magic Plate, which I still use in preference to all its copies.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 26, 2011 - 05:35am PT
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Did anybody ever use these? They look like they might have been halfway decent.
Love a ton of CMI gear, but those we called those "the swivel of death"...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 26, 2011 - 11:41am PT
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I said they look like they would be halfway decent because their geometry
looks pretty close to the old school Abalakovs which I still carry because
they are light and, ok, are good conversation starters. Even before the
springy-thingies appeared I mainly used my Abalakovs for belays where you
could keep an eye on them for their wandering ways. Those Kirks Kamms don't
look nearly as light as Abalakovs but pre-springies it seems they woulda
been useful for tough placments at belays like in the ad.
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Jonnnyyyzzz
Trad climber
San Diego,CA
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Jul 29, 2011 - 06:29pm PT
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Some of the first gear I ever owned. My Dad bought it for my 11th birthday along with a Gold Line and some steel lockers from a old Mountain Rescue guy
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 29, 2011 - 08:34pm PT
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Don't dis Crack-n-ups, those things work great for clean aid.
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the goat
climber
north central WA
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Jul 29, 2011 - 09:12pm PT
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What do you mean "didn't catch on?" Hell, I still use that stuff!
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fosburg
climber
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Jul 29, 2011 - 09:52pm PT
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That Colg right hand rope grab is freaking classic and should be valuable!
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Jul 30, 2011 - 02:54am PT
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Forrest Foxhead, SMC #2, CLOG #2
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Jul 30, 2011 - 02:58am PT
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Maybe a CM Jonnnyyyzzz, in fact "FM" that stands for Forrest Mountaineering. And this nut is a Foxhead #3.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 30, 2011 - 03:05am PT
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Don't dis Crack-n-ups, those things work great for clean aid.
Hell, they work great for free climbing if rigged right...
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 30, 2011 - 07:39am PT
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And the swivel of death thingy is actually cool in CERTAIN placements
Maybe the spring loaded one which I'd never seen - but the unsprung one? Death - never saw a placement I'd trust it in and I'm pretty reasonable with pro.
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Did these ever go into production?
Rock on! Marty
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