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Jongy
Gym climber
Ciudad Juárez, Ch Mexico
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But that's the thing. I want to make holds out of natural material. Not plastic.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2010 - 09:07pm PT
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Climbing holds! Climbing holds??? What is this thread coming tooooo!!??
Better than plastic climbing holds are real rock climbing holds. Go to your favorite climbing crag and permanently borrow choice pieces of talis and flakes fallen on the ground of rock, whether they are granite, limestone, sandstone, basalt, tuff, whatever. Drill a 3/8" straight hole for the bolt plus washer, and cut a gasket for the back of your real rock manufactured hold out of old bicycle inner-tube and place between the rock and the artificial wall, and Voila! you have yourself a genuine great climbing hold that feels and climbs like real rock. Duh!!! It is. And the best part, every hold is unique. No 2 are alike.
I have made many such holds. They're great.
The most expensive of these types of holds are from the Moon. Moon rock climbing holds go for about $50,000/g or more. I say we get up there and bring back more than 380kg worth that Apollo brought back. Surely, the more we can bring back the cheaper the hold, don't you think?
Back to the Moon!
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Rokjox - speed of light, distance to nearest planet with intelligent life, and the energy required to travel anywhere near the SOL - it's an exercise in time travel consuming near infinite energy. Good luck with the odds of that ever happening once, let alone happening all the time with Earth somehow always the destination of choice. We must be high up on galactic travel agents' "must do" list.
And look at Klimmer's Apollo 20 shoulder patch, what does that imply? Aside from the fact neither craft had any such capability, where would they take it? Ridiculous.
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Some Adirondack anorthosite could sub for moon rock holds, only a few billion years younger than the real thing, but otherwise an almost perfect match.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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Pate's right. Im done with this. I cant argue with someone who bases their beliefs on Youtube videos. I think you pose interesting questions Klimmer, but thats all they are. Shadow governments, 911 conspiracies, religions prophecy..... anything else you want to share? They are all part of the same bullsh*t.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nobody said it had any sort of passengers.
Umm, yeah, the original hoax behind this thread includes a video of a "female alien mummy."
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Flashy P
climber
Sparks, NV
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I'm excited that the topic of making holds out of plastic came up finally.
I'd like to make some plastic holds out of natural material also. What is the most natural plastic to use?
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Flashy P
climber
Sparks, NV
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Jongy was asking donini about making plastic holds, it seemed like he knew what he was talking about.
Is donini a comp climber?
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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I keep learning new stuff from this thread. Personally, I'm glad Klimmer started it.
And now thanks to Stich, I know that Kermit lives on Mars.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2010 - 11:54pm PT
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Rokjox,
I've had these on my amazon.com wish list for sometime now. Haven't purchased them but would like too:
I Could Tell You But Then You Would Have to be Destroyed by Me: Emblems from the Pentagon's Black World [Hardcover]
Trevor Paglen
http://www.amazon.com/Could-Tell-Then-Would-Destroyed/dp/1933633328/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1ONZDX3MP34OH&colid=2GL3DFQ4AXH2G
Review
"A fascinating set of shoulder patches designed for the Pentagon's Black Ops programs."
—Stephen Colbert, The Colbert Report
“A glimpse of [the Pentagon’s] dark world through a revealing lens—patches—the kind worn on military uniforms.... The book offers not only clues into the nature of the secret programs, but also a glimpse of zealous male bonding among the presumed elite of the military-industrial complex. The patches often feel like fraternity pranks gone ballistic.”
—William Broad, The New York Times
“Gives readers a peek into the shadows ... Department of Defense spokesman Bob Mehal told Newsweek that it ‘would not be prudent to comment on what patches did or did not represent classified units.’ That’s OK. Some mysteries are more fun when they stay unsolved.”
—Karen Pinchin, Newsweek
"An art book that presents peculiar shoulder patches created for the weird and top secret programs funded by the Pentagon's black budget... an achievement."
—Timothy Buckwalter, The San Francisco Chonicle
"I was fascinated... [Paglen] has assembled about 40 colorful patch insignia from secret, military 'black' programs that are hardly ever discussed in public. He has plenty of regalia from the real denizens of Area 51."
—Alex Beam, The Boston Globe
"An impressive collection."
—Justin Rood, ABC News
"The iconography of the United States military. Not the mainstream military, with its bars and ribbons and medals, but the secret or 'black projects' world, which may or may not involve contacting aliens, building undetectable spy aircraft, and experimenting with explosives that could make atomic bombs look like firecrackers. Here, mysterious characters and cryptic symbols hint at intrigue much deeper than rank, company, and unit."
—UTNE Reader
"Of course, issuing patches for a covert operation sounds like a joke...but truth be told, these days everything is branded. Military symbols are frequently replete with heraldic imagery—some rooted in history, others based on contemporary popular arts that feature comic characters—but these enigmatic dark-op images, in some cases probably designed by the participants themselves, are more personal, and also more disturbing, than most."
—Steven Heller, The New York Times Book Review
Blank Spots on the Map: The Dark Geography of the Pentagon's Secret World [Bargain Price] [Hardcover]
Trevor Paglen
http://www.amazon.com/Blank-Spots-Map-Geography-Pentagons/dp/B002ACPM5E/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b
Top Secret Tourism: Your Travel Guide to Germ Warfare Laboratories, Clandestine Aircraft Bases and Other Places in the United States You're Not Supposed to Know About [Paperback]
Harry Helms
http://www.amazon.com/Top-Secret-Tourism-Laboratories-Clandestine/dp/1932595236/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b
There are many mission patches out there are "really way out there" that speak volumes about what they want to say but can't. Even the clandestine world likes to brag. Bragging is enherently human.
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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That's a good sized moonark! Is it secret?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2010 - 12:40am PT
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Cosmiccragman asked . . .
Was Goliath part Nephilim? Gen: 6.4
Yes, many well learned Biblical scholars say so. His people were Nephalim.
I would like to eventually put up a list of links that goes into a great deal of incredibly interesting facts and evidence concerning The Hidden History of Mankind. There is much that the official world of Archeology, Anthropology, and Paleontology ignores that tell another possible story of our ancestry. Many probably think I'm coming up with this stuff in isolation on my own. Nope. There are many wonderful scholars and resources that go into this in detail.
Even the thought of the Nephalim escaping the Biblical Flood Off-World via a massive spacecraft Ark is not my original thought. Others have thought it through and came up with that scenerio. I think it is plausible too, if one accepts the Bible as truth and the Book of Enoch as the truth and a missing Book of the Bible, and also note - it was also found in the Caves with the Dead Sea Scrolls.
If one accepts the Bible as truth. If one accepts that Fallen Angels mated with mankind and had off-spring called Nephalim. If one accepts that some Nephalim somehow escaped the flood and survived afterwards. Then they would have had to go off-World to do so, since the Bible says the entire world was covered, yet some Nephalim were after the flood. Then the situation is plausible.
Yes, I'm aware that this scenerio is bat-poop nuts to many, but the only new piece that is added that is not found in any religious and sacred books is the escaping off-world in a massive Spacecraft (Space-Ark), and perhaps it crashed onto the farside of the Moon.
Hey, all I want is for NASA to provide the hi-res images without any hanky panky of the entire region in question, from the LRO images, and enough imagery of said region to view the object in hi-res 3D. Let me see the all the actual real images from LRO, and I will be a happy camper. If it is natural and nothing is there, so be it. If something massive is there and it does indeed have intelligently designed features and the look, then you have to ask Who? When? And Why? The Nephalim escaping Earth is a working Hypothesis for Christians to consider.
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Cool, we're back to angels f*#king humans.
Why is that the angels always chose to be guys, Klimmer?
Or were there any that chose to be women?
Did they just not want to hang around pregnant for nine months?
This is what caused the old testament God to be angry and violent because the supernatural offspring were like throwing lightning bolts around and sh#t, right?
Was he also pissed off at the angels? Or was it like 'oh well, angels will be angels'?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Has nobody brought up the possibility that this 'ark' is some kind of digital artifact or just plain weird low angle lighting? Seems to me too that it might have been shot with film and then digitized thereby raising the chances of artifacts even higher.
Also, it seems highly unlikely to me that a culture sophisticated enough to travel how many light years would then 'blow the landing'.
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skywalker
climber
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really? Let me rephrase that (please pause a second when you say it and assert yourself), REALLY??????
S......
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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It's always good to keep the "skepticals" on, but not a closed mind.
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Flashy P
climber
Sparks, NV
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I PM'd Jonga and he gave me his recipe for creating Mexican all natural climbing holds. By pouring a mixture of 1/4 Elmer's glue and 3/4 scented kitty litter into jello molds you can create some dab shapes.
To give them more stick you can apply heat prior to climbing.
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Flashy P
climber
Sparks, NV
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He said that he uses the white Elmer's glue because he likes to sometimes eat a little bit when he's making them and says it tastes ok.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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I have no doubt there were, are, and will be other civilizations in the universe - it's pretty clear from the fact we exist that it's imminently possible for life to flourish throughout the universe. I would guess off-hand that there are likely a multitude of civilizations capable of reaching orbit and beyond as a result.
That's not the issue - time travel is the issue - as is the energy budget required to construct any such an object in orbit, or to provide for interstellar propulsion. And what would be the point of such an object? You keep going on about this possibility and that possibility without so much a single plausible conjecture as to how such a thing could be even remotely possible or why.
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