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Brokedownclimber

Trad climber

Douglas, WY

Jul 21, 2010 - 11:45am PT

To All-
It was not my intent to hijack this thread, but to point out the dangers of dealing with information provided by the Center for Biological Diversity.

Rodger

quietpartner

Trad climber

Moantannah

Jul 21, 2010 - 01:31pm PT

If CBD gets wolf recovery all over the country......

Center for Biological Diversity hangs out a "Help Wanted" sign.

"Damn, we're a boomin' bizness now, ain't we! No recession here!!!!!"

Brokedownclimber

Trad climber

Douglas, WY

Jul 21, 2010 - 01:34pm PT

The meeting I described earlier nearly turned into a riot; the sponser actually turned off the lights at one point to get people's attention, and the meeting terminated early. NO representatives of CBD were there....with good cause.

quietpartner

Trad climber

Moantannah

Jul 21, 2010 - 02:02pm PT

BDC

Has CBD ever had their feet held to the fire for their dishonest dealings?

Brokedownclimber

Trad climber

Douglas, WY

Jul 21, 2010 - 03:17pm PT

They really don't seem to have much of a membership (that will openly admit to being members!) They don't present much of a "Public Face" that is easily rocognized.

ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Trad climber

San Francisco, Ca

Jul 21, 2010 - 03:26pm PT

I've worked with and against their attorneys on cases. I'd say the organization is more aggressive and ideological than, say, NRDC. I suspect they are funded mainly via the attorneys' fees provisions contained in most environmental statues- i.e., the "prevailing party" gets its fees.

Brokedownclimber

Trad climber

Douglas, WY

Jul 21, 2010 - 10:58pm PT

Sounds a lot like well meaning zoning attempts. Zoning leaves you still owning the property--you just lost you use of it! In a real way, zoning is legalized government theft of a part of the property owner's use of that property.

quietpartner

Trad climber

Moantannah

Jul 22, 2010 - 12:44pm PT

Yeah Rockjox and Brokedown....

If only the Wild West had been settled by today's civilized fools. ;^)

Jan

Mountain climber

Okinawa, Japan

Jul 22, 2010 - 01:23pm PT

Most of today's environmentalists couldn't have lasted a week in the Old West. It took tough as nails people like our ancestors to do it. They passed on their genes and that's why some of us are still cantankerous!

Brokedownclimber

Trad climber

Douglas, WY

Jul 22, 2010 - 08:13pm PT

The Center for Biological Diversity has as one of it's stated objectives: to add 2 species to the endangered list annually.

Their latest "hit" in the Rocky Mountain States is the Black Tailed Prairie Dog. The claim is that efforts to control rangeland devestation by these pests is endangering the Golden Eagle by interfering with the bird's food chain. Note: There are something like 14 million Prairie Dogs in Wyoming, Northern Colorado, and South Dakota combined. Just ask any horse owner how they'd like some Prairie Dogs in their horse pasture!