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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Please, its vis-à-vis, not "vis a vue". Meaning "compared to" or "when compared with".
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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On this page, the thread has sunk to a significant low (this includes posts that were deleted).
I'm going to check out Mountain Project.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Bob, I don't read SUAP's posts, so I have to take your word for what they say.
I also don't click on undescribed video links.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Ron said:
I would just like to say PROPS to Gov Brown for not throwing some expensive silly party and just getting to work..May "the FORCE" be with him..
I have a feeling that we are in for a rocky ride. I believe that he is going to do what needs to be done, and not pander to anyone. I still don't understand the GOP crazies (and the ones we have are CRAZY), who would prefer to have the state crash and burn, just for the satisfaction of seeing a democrat fail. One of my business partners was a moderate Republican assemblyman physician, Keith Richman (probably and old friend of Fatty) from Northridge. When he ran for State Treasurer in 2006, he lost in the primary to a nobody, because he was not thought to be wacko right enough. He was a very early proponent of warning about unfunded pension liability and the effects that it would have on cities/counties/and the state. I respected him, and talked with him a lot.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Fatty..Jewish Republican...? Let's honor the separation of church and state...rj
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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fattrad said
Ken,
I have spoken with Keith several times, he's one of my fellow Jewish Republicans, a very good man. His campaign problem was a lack of organization.
I really have to disagree with your interpretation of what happened. A perfect example of the title of this thread.
From:
http://napavalleyregister.com/news/opinion/editorial/article_a41eb1d7-d6c9-54b9-9659-1a4b7f80ea0d.html
"Moderate Republicans in California, having watched their party become increasingly dominated by conservatives as it sunk deeper into minority status, had big hopes after Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected governor in 2003.
With Schwarzenegger the only Republican holding statewide office, they hoped he would assert his role as the de facto party leader to help reshape a party whose candidates had lost 17 of the previous 19 statewide elections.
This spring, the governor chose to sit on the sidelines — even when two legislative soulmates, Sen. Abel Maldonado and Assemblyman Keith Richman, were running for statewide office in contested GOP primaries.
Richman had been a Schwarzenegger confidant even before the movie star decided to jump into politics. It was Richman who organized a last-ditch, bipartisan effort to salvage the bond that Schwarzenegger desperately needed in 2004 to get the state out of fiscal crisis without having to raise taxes or gut education spending.
This year, when the governor bucked Republican orthodoxy and called for raising the state minimum wage, Maldonado stepped forward to carry the legislation. Whenever the governor campaigned for his ballot-box causes, Maldonado stood alongside Schwarzenegger to help appeal to Latino voters.
Both Richman and Maldonado were certain that an endorsement from Schwarzenegger would boost their chances for victory.
Instead, Schwarzenegger did nothing. Moderates Richman and Maldonado each lost to conservative opponents.
Even if Schwarzenegger is re-elected, Richman said, the Republican Party will be no better off than it was before the Terminator came onto the political scene.
"There are a lot of people who've worked hard to make this party a bigger tent," he said. "The governor was in a position to advance that effort, but he just hasn't done it."
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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CC wrote: And be advised corniss chopper is not my real name.
Like that was ever an issue.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Corniss Chopper...We know it's not your real name...Cornhole Chomper is though...:}
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corniss chopper
climber
not my real name
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Bob - well you can't go sniveling to the DA now saying I cyber-bullied you.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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The LEB says she did some mountain hiking in earlier days, even in Yosemite, and still hikes a bit. That should get her a token one point.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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CC wrote: Bob - well you can't go sniveling to the DA now saying I cyber-bullied you.
How do you freaks do it...posting under fake avatars trying gain attention and attacking those who in good will post under their real names?
Does it really make you feel good??
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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LEB wrote: DF, one more question - during any of these FS in which you apparently so engaged, at anytime did you ever lose your balance and fall head first hitting your head on the rock. Just wondering.....
Which just begs for the question...what is your excuse??
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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LEB....Careful !!!...those palmares could earn you negative points on the Fry rankings system..
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Rob Slater (100+) was as conservative as they come
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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I'm proud to be on Dr. F team of liberal, progressive climbers.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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LEB...An all night epic like you described automatically qualifies you as a Liberal..Sorry to inform you of this misfortune...Get with the program you closet liberal..rj
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