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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 11:47am PT
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Lois you are internet fake and deserve all the rude comments that come your way.
Pima Native American healthcare....yeah right!!
Lois...you don't post factual information...just hairball opinions.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Dec 31, 2010 - 11:57am PT
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Ken,
I knew if I read enough of your posts, I'd find something with which I'd agree. Your post on the President and Michael Vick was right on target. Thanks much for a clear and cogent argument.
I would add, as someone who faced a federal prosecution and pleaded guilty myself, I have a skewed perspective. Anyone convicted of a federal offense who comes back to be a productive member of society has done us all a favor, and overcome great odds.
Federal prosecutions severely punish those who have the temerity to contest their guilt. The punishment is about five-fold greater if they go to trial and lose. The Wesley Snipes case is a perfect example. His sentence for misdemeanors exceeds what he would have received had he pled guilty of a felony!
My guilty plea saved me tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees, as well as a likely prison sentence of five years and a fifty thousand dollar fine if I were found guilty after trial of the most serious charges. The $100 fine and six months I received, while odious, insured that I would not face a risk I could not afford to take.
Most federal prosecutions end in a plea agreement, just as mine did. I suspect, though, that most defendants were like me -- risk averse. Federal juries are impressed with FBI testimony -- even if coached, incomplete or misleading (The federal prosecutor in my case lied to the court, and tried to present impermissible evidence).
If people choose to go to trial in a federal prosecution, either they have nothing to lose, or they really believe they are innocent, have substantial resources to pay private counsel (to make it a fair fight) and don't care about what happens if a jury disagrees. For that reason, you need to go easy on the "whining." Sometimes, it bemoans injustice.
John
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 12:00pm PT
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John wrote: Anyone convicted of a federal offense who comes back to be a productive member of society has done us all a favor, and overcome great odds.
Thanks John...too bad the so-called-republicans-Christians on this site don't feel the same.
Hope you are having a great holiday season.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 12:16pm PT
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Coz...what education level do you have??
Lois is a complete troll/fool. Glad to see you admire that in a human being.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 12:20pm PT
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Lois wrote: Generally, I do not favor gun control. I am big on the right to bear arms. To the degree that your posts on ST represent your actual real life persona, however, I personally would not want to be in the same room with any of you three individuals if you exercised your constitutional right to own a firearm.
Lois..you know nothing of background. First in my family to go to College, married for 36 years, three wonderful children, 16 books published, 1,600 first ascent, volunteer of the year in 1992 for the BLM in Colorado and I manage a 3 million dollar (sales) food and beverage operation in Taos, NM. Also..I post my real name to everything I write on the internet.
You...liar and over 18,000 posts on Supertopo.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 12:21pm PT
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Lois is a sociopath/troll.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 12:29pm PT
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Lois wrote: ..................OR do you prefer to live and post behind a veil of anonymity like a true coward. I guess you can be a really "big man" when you don't reveal your identity, eh?
You really are sick.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Dec 31, 2010 - 12:29pm PT
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Well to be fair, there are only 2,826 forum postings found in which Bob D'Antonio's name is typed on supertopo.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 12:36pm PT
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Lois...so who do work for??
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 12:41pm PT
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So Lois..who do you work for??
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 12:45pm PT
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Locker wrote: None the less...
You currently OWN him Lois...
So did Kodos...until he got banned from here.
Lois is barking up the wrong tree.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 12:51pm PT
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Locker wrote: Open yer eyes and take in the LIGHT of LOIS...
Locker...put down the pipe for at least an hour.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 12:59pm PT
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Lois...where do you work?
I'll be in Tucson for some birding in a month...let's hook up. Leave the gun on rez. LOL
Lois wrote: The only thing I ever read from him from where I sit is either a four letter word or some vile rhetoric and character assassination.
Proving once more how little you really do know or can digest.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Dec 31, 2010 - 12:59pm PT
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After winning a bet, Kodos pummeled - and I mean PUMMELED - supertopo with an enormous quantity of posting spam.
I believe he was the first ever perma-banned from here.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 01:04pm PT
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Lois...where do you work?
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 01:12pm PT
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Lois...where do you work??
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Dec 31, 2010 - 01:13pm PT
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Kodos somehow managed to post so many threads so quickly that everyone was in essence locked out from participating here for some time. Pages and pages of posts of (I believe) his victory in the bet. The site may as well have gone black. The content of the posts were not the issue - it was the complete take over of supertopo that was.
edit: and imo this place is more restrained than it once was.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 01:19pm PT
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Hey Crimp...give me the low down on birding in southern Arizona.
You should check out the Bosque del Apache near Socorro, NM
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 31, 2010 - 01:21pm PT
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Dr. F wrote: LEB says, frothing at the mouth
people go off the deep end here all the time
Over 18,000 posts in four years. Lois...super troll.
Almost 30 post a day for the last four years.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
leading the away team, but not in a red shirt!
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Dec 31, 2010 - 01:22pm PT
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Perspective is everything.
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