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WBraun
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Mar 17, 2019 - 10:11am PT
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Just keeps proving that all living things are ultimately spiritual souls within material bodies.
The gross materialists only see the dead matter animated by the living individual soul within and
is why the gross materialists are ultimately clueless and in illusion of life itself .....
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Trump
climber
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Mar 17, 2019 - 12:12pm PT
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Ultimately .. no one has the right to start braying .. till ..
I like it! What gives me the right? Great question. Best I can tell, I was born with it.
But if our self-confirmation bias tells us that we DO have the right to tell other people why they DON’T have the right, or that WE have the right to set the conditions that they have to satisfy for them to believe that THEY have the right ... kind of par for the course I’d say.
I think if we want to be honest about it, we should all just start starting all of our sentences with “ultimately.” Because ultimately, I’m the one who’s right about stuff. And it won’t surprise me if the same is true for you.
just keeps proving
Right? Everything seems to just keep proving how right I am. I’m glad you seem to be conscious of the same thing, whether the right thing that your consciousness keeps proving to you is an actual factual fact or not.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Mar 18, 2019 - 06:15pm PT
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Just watched HFCS's and Ed's last links. Very nice! Dr. Frans de Waal is one of my new heroes.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2019 - 06:39pm PT
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Trump, you drank the bong water. No worries. We all do at times...
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Mar 18, 2019 - 10:12pm PT
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Won't answer the question but if you are tired of reading and want to just play around
Nvidia announces $99 AI computer for developers, makers, and researchers
The Jetson Nano is the latest example of cheap edge computing for AI
Meanwhile at Apple
Almost $2K
the current iPad lineup consists fo the 7.9-inch iPad mini, 9.7-inch iPad, 10.5-inch iPad Air, and the 11- and 12.9-inch iPad Pro. Pricing ranges from $329 (often seen for $249) for the entry-level 9.7-inch iPad up to $1,899 for a maxed out 12.9-inch iPad Pro.
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 19, 2019 - 07:59am PT
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That's the spirit zbrown.
But you don't need a st00pid man-made computer.
You can do it for free just plain by your own self.
You can fly in the sky and travel to other planets just by your own self if you want.
You can manipulate the material realm just mantra method (higher sound vibrations).
These ignorant cavemen gross materialists here working by rubbing sticks together babbling horsesh!t all day will never understand these higher powerful siddhas.
Even their st00pid so called nuclear power is caveman which they have little control over.
In the old days it was controlled that by mantra perfectly.
The fools called those old days ancient but it's exactly where they discovered the means to split the atom from.
Unfortunately, the modern cavemen fools never heeded the warnings.
The power of sound vibration is out of reach of the modern mental speculator caveman materialistic fools
stirring their lifeless beakers and drooling at their dead sterile mechanized machines in their dimly lit caves .....
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Mar 19, 2019 - 05:44pm PT
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I will see or hear it when I believe it, eh, Herr B. :)
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Mar 19, 2019 - 07:30pm PT
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It's amazing fools inherited the world instead of all those enlightened Hindus.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Mar 20, 2019 - 08:10am PT
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^^^^^^
I'd say this is poorly expressed. "Inherited" should be replaced by "populated." No one owns or possesses the world in any conventional sense. You're just a player in an indescribable game, and your "choices" are minimal, even trivial, conventionally.
On the other hand, if you want to press your idea forward, then you may have to consider that you're constructing the world in your perceptions of it.
EDIT: What you believe is what you see.
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 20, 2019 - 08:56am PT
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What you believe is what you see.
You can do better than that.
If I believe there is a giraffe in the back yard and there's only a squirrel, so now I see a squirrel as a giraffe.
Oh My ..... we've now reached the pinnacle of st00pidness .....
By the way there's no such word Hindu in the Veda's.
Vedic has nothing to do with Hindus or any of your insane material mental speculations.
At one time the whole planet was Vedic way before you gross materialist s started guessing about everything and then screwing up the planet ....
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Mar 20, 2019 - 11:29am PT
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I'd say this is poorly expressed. "Inherited" should be replaced by "populated." No one owns or possesses the world in any conventional sense. You're just a player in an indescribable game, and your "choices" are minimal, even trivial, conventionally. Well said, MikeL! There are lots of things that I don't agree with you on, but on this, I agree with you. If I am to be honest with my science-based convictions, I know that my own beliefs on this subject are essentially beyond my control as are yours and healyje's and Largo's and everybody else's on this thread. On the other hand, there is no reason to believe that a well-described and well-timed (relative to the listener's environment) argument could not change somebody's mind.
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Mar 20, 2019 - 12:51pm PT
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your "choices" are minimal, even trivial, conventionally.
Please don't tell my wife that.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Mar 20, 2019 - 04:31pm PT
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Werner wrote: At one time the whole planet was Vedic...
A couple of tribes at best...
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 20, 2019 - 05:33pm PT
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No .... everyone on the whole planet.
Millions .....
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Mar 21, 2019 - 10:45am PT
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I finally got a round to reading Erwin Schrodinger's famous little book, What is Life?, first written in 1944 based on a series of lectures the famous physicist gave on the subject. It is a frequently cited work. Here's a link to a free .pdf. I can't stop thinking about it since I read it. I've compiled the internal headings into the list below. It's amazing how much could be inferred 9 years before the discovery of the structure of DNA.
http://www.whatislife.ie/downloads/What-is-Life.pdf
CHAPTER 1 The Classical Physicist's Approach to the Subject
* STATISTICAL PHYSICS: THE FUNDAMENTAL W DIFFERENCE IN STRUCTURE
* THE NATIVE PHYSICIST'S APPROACH TO THE SUBJECT
* WHY ARE THE ATOMS SO SMALL?
* THE WORKING OF AN ORGANISM REQUIRES EXACT PHYSICAL LAWS
* PHYSICAL LAWS REST ON ATOMIC STATISTICS AND ARE THEREFORE ONLY
APPROXIMATE
* THEIR PRECISION IS BASED ON THE LARGE OF NUMBER OF ATOMS INTERVENING
* FIRST EXAMPLE (PARAMAGNETISM)
* SECOND EXAMPLE (BROWNIAN MOVEMENT, DIFFUSION)
* THIRD EXAMPLE (LIMITS OF ACCURACY OF MEASURING)
CHAPTER 2 The Hereditary Mechanism
* THE CLASSICAL PHYSICIST'S EXPECTATION, FAR FROM BEING TRIVIAL, IS
WRONG
* THE HEREDITARY CODE-SCRIPT (CHROMOSOMES)
* GROWTH OF THE BODY BY CELL DIVISION (MITOSIS)
* IN MITOSIS EVERY CHROMOSOME IS DUPLICATED
* REDUCTIVE DIVISION (MEIOSIS) AND FERTILIZATION (SYNGAMY)
* THE OUTSTANDING RELEVANCE OF THE REDUCTIVE DIVISION
* CROSSING-OVER. LOCATION OF PROPERTIES
* MAXIMUM SIZE OF A GENE
* SMALL NUMBERS
CHAPTER 3 Mutations
* 'JUMP-LIKE' MUTATIONS -THE WORKING- GROUND OF NATURAL SELECTION
* THEY BREED TRUE, THAT IS, THEY ARE PERFECTLY INHERITED
* LOCALIZATION, RECESSIVITY AND DOMINANCE
* THE HARMFUL EFFECT OF CLOSE-BREEDING
* THE NECESSITY OF MUTATION BEING A RARE EVENT
* MUTATIONS INDUCED BY X-RAYS
* FIRST LAW. MUTATION IS A SINGLE EVENT
* SECOND LAW. LOCALIZATION OF THE EVENT
CHAPTER 4 The Quantum-Mechanical Evidence
* EXPLICABLE BY QUANTUM THEORY
* QUANTUM THEORY -DISCRETE STATES – QUANTUM JUMPS
* MOLECULES
* THEIR STABILITY DEPENDENT ON TEMPERATURE
CHAPTER 5
* DIFFERENT STATES OF MATTER
* THE APERIODIC SOLID
* THE VARIETY OF CONTENTS COMPRESSED IN THE MINIATURE CODE
* COMPARISON WITH FACTS: DEGREE OF STABILITY; DISCONTINUITY OF
MUTATIONS
* STABILITY OF NATURALLY SELECTED GENES
* THE SOMETIMES LOWER STABILITY OF MUTANTS
* TEMPERATURE INFLUENCES UNSTABLE GENES LESS THAN STABLE ONES
* HOW X-RAYS PRODUCE MUTATION
* THEIR EFFICIENCY DOES NOT DEPEND ON SPONTANEOUS MUTABILITY
* REVERSIBLE MUTATIONS
CHAPTER 6 Order, Disorder and Entropy
* A REMARKABLE GENERAL CONCLUSION FROM THE MODEL
* ORDER BASED ON ORDER
* LIVING MATTER EVADES THE DECAY TO EQUILIBRIUM
* IT FEEDS ON 'NEGATIVE ENTROPY'
* WHAT IS ENTROPY?
* THE STATISTICAL MEANING OF ENTROPY
* ORGANIZATION MAINTAINED BY EXTRACTING 'ORDER' FROM THE ENVIRONMENT
CHAPTER 7 Is Life Based on the Laws of Physics?
* NEW LAWS TO BE EXPECTED IN THE ORGANISM
* REVIEWING THE BIOLOGICAL SITUATION
* SUMMARIZING THE PHYSICAL SITUATION
* THE STRIKING CONTRAST
* TWO WAYS OF PRODUCING ORDERLINESS
* THE NEW PRINCIPLE IS NOT ALIEN TO PHYSICS
* THE MOTION OF A CLOCK
* CLOCKWORK AFTER ALL STATISTICAL
* NERNST'S THEOREM
* THE PENDULUM CLOCK IS VIRTUALLY AT ZERO TEMPERATURE
* THE RELATION BETWEEN CLOCKWORK AND ORGANISM
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 21, 2019 - 10:52am PT
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Schrodinger has no clue what life itself is since life itself is NOT Physical to begin with.
You, gross materialists, are not even in ballpark yet .....
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