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rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 20, 2016 - 08:37am PT
Well boys, in case you haven't noticed the world is going to hell in a handbasket. We do need to spend heavily on defense. What we don't need is more nation building, arming of various unknown factions on the theory that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, or surgical strikes. This globalist ideal is not working out to we'll in a world that can't even get along on a local level. We need to protect what we have, take care of our own, and become self sustainable here amongst our near neighbors. Ring the rest of the fanatics (mainly from n. Africa through the middle east) with steel and punish their terrorist excursions tenfold.
zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 20, 2016 - 08:49am PT
Well rick, I agree with you there, a re-prioritization is in order. As to the details ... ?

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 20, 2016 - 08:54am PT
Leave it the generals and defense secretary, if we can find and employ any rational effective ones.
dirtbag

climber
Jan 20, 2016 - 09:39am PT
Very interesting poll:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/poll-florida-trump-gop-218015

Trump leads Cruz 48-32% in Florida, which is a huge prize. Home grown Rubio and Bush have only 11 and 10%. I think we have to consider Trump to be a slight favorite at this point to win the nomination.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jan 20, 2016 - 09:50am PT
crankster posted
I understand your point, HDDJ. Every parent knows you only have so much control over your kids actions. But it is interesting that her kids are somewhat of a train wreck while the 2 people she attacks the most, President Obama and Hillary Clinton, obviously have greater parenting skills.

I don't think we need to bring people's kids into play when judging their parents in politics. Gore's son has had his share of trouble. Chelsea was being mocked by right wing media for the crime of being an awkward teenager daughter of someone whose politics they disagreed with.

dirtbag posted
Trump leads Cruz 48-32% in Florida, which is a huge prize. Home grown Rubio and Bush have only 11 and 10%. I think we have to consider Trump to be a slight favorite at this point to win the nomination.

It's hard to wrap my head around but it's seeming more possible. I think it's quite likely that things will shift when the field narrows because while trump has gained some support, he still ranks poorly in the "second choice" category. With 65% of Republicans still favoring other candidates, it's quite possible they will throw their support around an alternative as their first choice leaves the race. Is Cruz a better choice? I honestly can't say. Judging from Trump's past positions I actually have more faith that Trump would make reasonable decisions than a screaming ideologue like Cruz. Trump is an egotist and shameless self-promoter who is saying a lot of truly ugly things to get elected but he's also not married to a bizarre, destructive ethos.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2016 - 09:55am PT
Leave it the generals and defense secretary, if we can find and employ any rational effective ones.

Oh, yeah, leave a fox to guard the hen house, too. You clearly were not in the military or you
would know that the vast majority of generals got there by strictly adhering to the Peter Principle.
A few smart and ethical ones slipped through the cracks but they are usually ignored or shunted
to some meaningless command where they can't interfere with the MI Complex. The truly
intelligent and ethical officers rarely make it past colonel/captain, if that.

ps. sorry, I re-read yer statement and in my state of Ebola just realized we are in agreement. ;-)
dirtbag

climber
Jan 20, 2016 - 10:10am PT
It's hard to wrap my head around but it's seeming more possible. I think it's quite likely that things will shift when the field narrows because while trump has gained some support, he still ranks poorly in the "second choice" category. With 65% of Republicans still favoring other candidates, it's quite possible they will throw their support around an alternative as their first choice leaves the race. Is Cruz a better choice? I honestly can't say. Judging from Trump's past positions I actually have more faith that Trump would make reasonable decisions than a screaming ideologue like Cruz. Trump is an egotist and shameless self-promoter who is saying a lot of truly ugly things to get elected but he's also not married to a bizarre, destructive ethos.

Weird, huh? Cruz is still a strong contender.

In late 2015, I kept thinking Rubio would emerge as a frontrunner, both because primary voters would finally come to their senses , and the establishment field would narrow. I've given up on the first scenario, and the second hasn't really happened yet.

Still, if Rubio or Bush were to become leading establishment-type candidates, I would imagine them to be getting some traction first in Florida. That hasn't happened. The other establishment candidates are doing even worse

Every once in awhile, Trump says something that isn't crazy. For example, while he says he is opposed to the Iran deal, he also has said that he would not walk away from it on day one of his presidency. Despite his big talk, he is not the biggest hawk in the race.
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jan 20, 2016 - 01:34pm PT
Why not? She knowingly transmitted Affluenza to him.

I was fortunate. My parents got the affluenza vaccine shot.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Jan 20, 2016 - 01:46pm PT
Obama made him do it...

While speaking at a Donald Trump campaign stop Wednesday in Tulsa, Okla., Sarah Palin addressed the "elephant in the room": her son Track's domestic violence arrest. And she seemingly pinned it on a perceived lack of respect for military veterans on the part of President Obama.

"My son, like so many others, they come back a bit different, they come back hardened," she said. "They come back wondering if there is that respect for what it is that their fellow soldiers and airman and every other member of the military so sacrificially have given to this country," she added. "And that starts from the top."

"That comes from our own president," she elaborated, "where they have to look at him and wonder, 'Do you know what we go through? Do you know what we're trying to do to secure America?'"

"So when my own son is going through what he goes through coming back, I can certainly relate with other families who kind of feel these ramifications of some PTSD and some of the woundedness that our soldiers do return with," she continued before pivoting back to her Trump endorsement. "And it makes me realize, more than ever, it is now or never, for the sake of America's finest, that we have that commander-in-chief who will respect them and honor them."
dirtbag

climber
Jan 20, 2016 - 01:51pm PT
It's nice to see that she has spent her time in the political wilderness becoming an all-around policy wonk.
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Jan 20, 2016 - 04:12pm PT
I heard the Palin sound bite this afternoon and was pretty appalled. Maybe her son IS struggling with PTSD, but fer god's sake if he is - he apparently threatened to blow his head off in front of a woman he supposedly cares for and just punched. I think the world would understand if Ms. Palin chose to fly home and get her son the help he needs instead of campaigning.

And instead of sticking with the trauma aspect that so many of our young soldiers are enduring, she wants "now more than ever!" a president willing to send more of them directly into battle against an objective that has no clear definition.
dirtbag

climber
Jan 20, 2016 - 04:14pm PT
It's tempting to think the whole Palin-Trump spectacle is really just an elaborate bit of performance art.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jan 20, 2016 - 04:49pm PT
I was amused by Palin's incoherent mis-matching of disparate GOP agenda shouting points:


We aren't going to chill. We are going to drill, baby, drill down, and make these folks accountable.


Priceless.

Hulk Hogan, Randy The Macho Man Savage, or Vince McMahon couldn't have been more childishly absurd.



Trump has adapted his WWF fake wrestling act to his presidential campaign. Soon, he will finalize his performances by throwing his microphone to the floor, to emphasize how angry he is, and then stomp off the stage in a huff.



zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 20, 2016 - 07:23pm PT
Why are there two Trump threads?

10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Jan 20, 2016 - 08:20pm PT
. I think we have to consider Trump to be a slight favorite at this point to win the nomination.

It's more than slight.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Jan 20, 2016 - 09:07pm PT
He'll win.

Are we gonna "kick ISIS'S ass or "kick ISIS ass?

Is ISIS plural?

Would one say "Gee, those ISIS have bad breath" or "How 'bout that ISIS'S breath!" ?

dirtbag

climber
Jan 21, 2016 - 07:44am PT
Trump has been deemed to be "anti-establishment," but is he really? In one narrow sense, sure, because he is going against the Republican Party grain.

On the other hand, at a broader level, Trump has been quintessentially pro-establishment, having benefitted tremendously from the benefits his socio-economic position has brought. It's not like he eschewed his silver spoon, or all its privileges, or ever had a job where he got his hands dirty.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 21, 2016 - 07:53am PT
Trump is authoritarian. The common denominator among Trump supports is an inclination to authoritarianism.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 21, 2016 - 12:51pm PT
Trump is at heart a builder, a general contractor. The general in general contractor is really like it is, you are the general and all else in the organization are subordinate. Is that authoritarian? From my perspective as a general contractor of 30 years it isn't so much as an authoritarian position as a whatever it takes to get the job done properly position. General? Yeah you feel like the general

Now as far as his current tactics in the campaign (war), I don't know if the Palin endorsement causes a net vote gain or loss. I think it was more a preemptive move to deprive Cruz of getting more traction with the more religious base as she was probably being actively courted by Cruz.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jan 21, 2016 - 01:36pm PT
I doubt it's going to move a lot of votes directly. What it does do, is start clearing the way, for the fractious GOP "establishment" to start making their peace with Trump. Little guys will get out. Then his numbers improve.

For Palin though, hopping on the bandwagon early, should be worth a cabinet spot. Assuming Bernie loses. A huge assumption.
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