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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jan 26, 2015 - 11:24am PT
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! This Thread Belongs to . . . ??
Take YOUR pick of the THE CORE,
Keep the worms for color.
and yes you could get a shiny apple.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2015 - 06:12pm PT
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Chainsaw posted comments about it being common knowledge that meth labs were in a small town in the Sierra. All a sudden SuperTopo and I were being blamed for providing the personal information about Chainsaw. If anyone recalls those postings, Chainsaw used his full name in his email address. He invoked the rath of a couple of climbers as well as a contact by the local Sheriff's department. Then Chainsaw copied me on an email from a Federal Prosecutor in San Francisco pointing out that he had no choice but to send Chainsaw's postings to the Sheriff's department.
I called that lawyer just to make sure he understood what it was that I was doing on ST. His response was, "I've been following this thread for quite some time. You see, I am an avid climber so SuperTopo is my hang out".
Chainsaw bit in the ass by his own teeth. Jeebus, you can't make this stuff up. This event will definately find its way into the book if for no other reason than to give everyone a moment of levity.
LOL...me a Federal Agent, ya gotta love the paranoia. It strikes deep...
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Jan 26, 2015 - 06:41pm PT
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So roc, chainsaw, hacksaw, and that other guy sidmo are not all the same person?
I meant to say ric.
Should I go ahead and start the 2015 Mex-meth-drone smuggling crash book/novella without you?
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2015 - 08:28pm PT
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Sounds like a plan z. You obviously have a grasp on the mini scule
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Jan 26, 2015 - 08:35pm PT
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Where's Sidious in all of this? Did he finally get banned?
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2015 - 09:00pm PT
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I hope not, he brings to the story a level of ludicrousness. He is so hell bent on telling his story that he finds it important to run over anyone that might suggest he is incorrect or not present.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 26, 2015 - 09:05pm PT
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Chainsaw and Skidmo
hahahaha what a crew ......
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 28, 2015 - 12:14am PT
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Number of f*#ks given...meh
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Jan 28, 2015 - 07:35pm PT
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Licky. Hurry up, man.
I'm 66. Clock's tickin'
I just checked the actuarials. I'm good for something between 69.9 and 87.2.
I'm kinda hoping I get the whole story from you and not the shade of the Pilot.
Even if I make it to the upper end of the scale I'm not sure I can get the caregiver to read it to me.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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mini you say? 7 pounds of marijuana may seem small, 7 pounds of BHO that's a whole 'nother story.
How about the top ten questions you plan to answer in your book as a teaser. I have my ten, but it is afterall your book.
Weigh this while you're working on the book, ric.
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sidmo
Sport climber
general delivery
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Didja really think I was impersonating you chainsaw? REALLY????????
Look C-Saw, that was a joke, based on the history of:
A/ Licky accusing me of being you (Chainsaw)
B/ Me denying it to no avail
C/ Me employing sarcasm to insult Licky, who is stupid enough to confuse our identities
Not to worry, chainsaw, I neither aspire to be you, or to be associated with you, nor anyone else here - nothing personal, I wouldn't know any of you if you walked in the room - licky is a phony poser trying to use you all to his advantage - as for me wanting MY story in the book, licky kids himself- I think we'll all settle for ANY story - if he is scribe enough to write it - man up and publish already, licky, you moron
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2015 - 08:27pm PT
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I'm still looking forward to meeting you sidmo and sharing a cup of joe or a beer. Come on, what do you have to loose? You have plenty of stories
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sidmo
Sport climber
general delivery
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Feb 12, 2015 - 09:27am PT
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Licky, you are stuck singing the same old song - no one wants to meet you unless you prove that you're actually a writer working on a book about the plane, and stop your bi-polar responses alternating between requests for coffee and wholesale denunciations of anyone critical of your process (if not writing a book could be considered a process - I think you need progress to form a process, but then I'm not a wannabe amateur writer posing as a soon-to-be-published historian)
Post a chapter if you want to discredit me - I don't think you have one
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Barefoot
climber
Oakland, CA
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Feb 12, 2015 - 04:23pm PT
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Hi all,
I am posting here for much the same reason Rick started this thread in the first place.
My name is Julia DeWitt. I am public radio producer and I've gotten interested in the story of the 1977 plane crash. My colleague and I are looking for climbers that went up to the lake in the weeks following the crash that are willing to speak with us.
Let me give you a little background about the show so you have a better sense of what we're doing. The show is called Snap Judgment. It's an NPR show produced in the Bay Area, but distributed nationally to over 300 stations. We reach about a million people every a week. We are a non-fiction storytelling show that focuses on first-person accounts of stories. We are not investigative journalists. We are just interested in the tale of the lake. If you agree to speak with me I can grant you any level of anonymity you like. But this is for the radio, so I'm hoping to find people that are willing to talk on tape.
I spoke to Rick and he suggested I post on this thread. (I do so with his blessing.) Please get in touch if you have any further questions or have a story from back in '77 that you are willing to share.
Thanks everyone,
Julia DeWitt
julia@snapjudgment.org
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 12, 2015 - 04:36pm PT
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Julia, be careful what you wish for. ;-)
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Feb 12, 2015 - 05:02pm PT
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Can anyone get this guy a 'C' harmonica?
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2005 - 02:22am PT
If I could figure out how to post photos to this board I'd start showing some of the stuff that is public domain. Only problem...I can't see a simple click this button to load an image. If someone can help...please.
I would like to suggest opening a reply window and then clicking the photo button.
Alternatively, send them to me and I will post them for you.
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I read recently about a guy who spent 8 years researching his book, so don't give up the ghost, Ric.//
Anyway, just to pass the time, which seems to be slip-sliding away,
suppose "... it still leaves 1500 pounds of the six ton cargo unaccounted for..."
suppose further that each mule carried 25 pounds per trip
then that amounts to about 60 mule trips down the hill, right?
YMMV and caveat emptor!
Didn't the plane really crash in December of 1976?
Did they take photos when they pulled the plane out of the lake (like they did with the military plane they pulled out of Otay Lake)?
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2015 - 03:36pm PT
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Yes Z, they did take photos of the plane when it was hauled out. The company that had the salvage contract took this one
The plane crashed on December 9, 1976. When I first posted I was hoping someone would step forward and correct me when I posted it as 1977. The wing was found first found by Ron Lykins on January 29, 1977
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Feb 13, 2015 - 04:25pm PT
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WELL I am hear [sic] to tellya, that plane crashed in December, 1976. Is there any kind of a prize? Why hear? I was not actually on site.
How about an extra large "dime" bag.
I knew about Mr. Lykins also, but I was waiting for your nemesis, the loquacious ... uh ... I can't summon up the name ... satchmo? to correct the records.
Mind you, this was about a bad plane design (my wife's father flew in them) and the war, no drugs were involved, but the plane came up remarkably in tact after 65 years. BTW, it went in with the running gear up and the flaps fully deployed and both occupants of the plane survived the crash.
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Sula
Trad climber
Pennsylvania
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Feb 13, 2015 - 04:47pm PT
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I haven't yet had time to read this entire thread, so there's a good chance this has already been posted. But I thought after looking at a photo of the mangled wreckage, it might be interesting to see a photo of the aircraft as it looked before it crashed.
Here it is. About the only thing that clearly connects the two photos is the right wingtip: blue with a red stripe.
The plane was indeed a Howard 500, not a Lockheed PV-1 (aka Ventura) or a Lockheed Lodestar, as has frequently been reported. The Howard 500 was derived from these models and certainly resembles them, but actually had little directly in common with them (Googling says outer wingtips only). It had bigger engines, was faster, and could certainly haul more (especially when slavish adherence to rules and regulations was not a priority).
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Feb 13, 2015 - 04:54pm PT
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I don't think that even I have read this whole thread (some parts you just have to skim), but I thought it would be interesing to see what the operators looked like before the crash. So Here it is.
Alternatively, try
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