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Da_Dweeb

climber

Aug 28, 2011 - 01:50am PT

Come again, Cap'n? I'm not reading you clearly.

roy

Social climber

NZ -> SB,CA -> Zurich

Aug 28, 2011 - 04:12am PT

"I don't want to bother you much with what happened to me personally," he began, showing in this remark the weakness of many tellers of tales who seem so often unaware of what their audience would like best to hear; "yet to understand the effect of it on me you ought to know how I got there, what I saw, how I went up that river ..." Joseph Conrad, Heart of Darkness

Very nicely told perspective Madbolter - thanks, Roy

donini

Trad climber

Ouray, Colorado

Aug 28, 2011 - 10:31am PT

Ahh...all is well, the Drama Queen Thread marches on.

Meaty

climber

Aug 28, 2011 - 02:44pm PT

You're not too good at the trolling game, schmuck.

Just wait till folks find out who that third chpper/shitter is, they're gonna sh#t in their shorts because so many supertopo wankers praise him and have even attended his slide shows!!lol!!!

mojede

Trad climber

Butte, America

Aug 28, 2011 - 04:57pm PT

30 years from now Wings of Steel will STILL be an El-Capitan A5 hooking test-piece, AND there will be nary a mention of any out-dated pirates named "steveandmimi"...

Now THAT is when this silly issue will be laid to rest

WBraun

climber

Aug 28, 2011 - 06:47pm PT

A5 hooking test-piece

And you did the second ascent.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Aug 28, 2011 - 06:55pm PT

coz,
donini actually did do a new route on El Cap so don't get all uppity.

Of course since then there have been several ice ages that have altered the face substantially removing all the camalots made of bone that he left fixed.

Da_Dweeb

climber

Aug 28, 2011 - 07:02pm PT

Hey Meaty, what the heck is going on, there are two meatys posting now, "Meaty" and "Meaty." the latter having the location "shitrope ca".

Incidentally, if you say it wasn't you, I believe you. And it really does suck to be falsely accused. Regardless I don't think that naming and shaming the rope crappers is at this point any kind of priority for the FA team. Just for the spectators, I think.

donini

Trad climber

Ouray, Colorado

Aug 28, 2011 - 07:02pm PT

No Coz, I never did a new El Cap route. I did a couple of established routes to get the skills down then went out and found some less crowded venues.

GDavis

Social climber

SOL CAL

Aug 28, 2011 - 07:06pm PT

Those of you that think we've been wringing our hands and angsting over this for so many years can rest assured it's been a laughing matter all along.

Prod

Trad climber

Aug 28, 2011 - 07:24pm PT

Any word on when the SA artilce is coming out?

Prod

donini

Trad climber

Ouray, Colorado

Aug 28, 2011 - 07:33pm PT

Coz, you're talking like a moron. You are very eager to attack in any way you can anyone who disagrees with you. A forum is meant for all different viewpoints. An ad hominen attack on my climbing record makes you sound like an idiot.
My remark about this being a drama queens thread seems to have hit home.

Prod

Trad climber

Aug 28, 2011 - 07:39pm PT

Prod here, aka Drama Queen lover...

Hey Jim,

Did you ever get into all aid lines, or was Aid a last resort to a natural free line for you?

Cheers,

Prod.

donini

Trad climber

Ouray, Colorado

Aug 28, 2011 - 07:41pm PT

I discovered that I really didn't enjoy aid like I don't dig slab climbing. Aid was always a last resort and I've tried to pick lines with a lot of free climbing. Everyone has different likes and dislikes.

Prod

Trad climber

Aug 28, 2011 - 07:45pm PT

Yeah I never pictured you as an "Aid" climber.

Hope you got in some good climbing here in Boulder.

Prod.

Prod

Trad climber

Aug 28, 2011 - 08:18pm PT

Ammon said this in May 2005

I heard they were Jehovah's Witnesses... same difference, right?

I also heard the route was a rivet ladder and put up in very poor style.

Prod.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Aug 28, 2011 - 08:23pm PT

I think Jim may be mincing words. If you hang on the mastadon tendon that is a form of aid!

klk

Trad climber

cali

Aug 28, 2011 - 08:27pm PT

coz, jim's point, and it isn't a trivial one, is that this thread has generated a jillion melodramatic responses all about a nine pitch variation to the aquarian wall. he thinks its a tempest in a teapot.

meanwhile, rad stuff that happens outside of the valley is often ignored on the forum.

i guess the proper response to jim's argument would be, that what happens on el cap is more significant than what happens on any other local cliff we could name, because it was and remains probably the single most important arena for the technical wall skills that then get applied in other, wilder and higher places. so if, after thirty years, we were suddenly to see the emergence of a strain of wall climbing that emphasized really difficult and mostly boltless hooking on slabs that could then go out into the big wide world, wings of steel could, in some dim but not impossible future, be historically significant for the bigger world of mountaineering.

that's not my argument, but someone could make it. i can't imagine a future in which marathon hooking on slabs becomes a big part of climbing culture, but then i never thought bouldering would become popular either.

you guys are both getting old and cranky. this thread seems to have that effect on all of us.