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briham89
Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
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Apr 10, 2019 - 10:48pm PT
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Rad!!!
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Loyd
Big Wall climber
Roseburg, OR
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Apr 11, 2019 - 08:52am PT
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I was just a few ladders down from you guys.
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Apr 11, 2019 - 09:21am PT
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I'm more a fillet and release fisherman
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Stimbo
Trad climber
Crowley Lake
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Apr 11, 2019 - 07:44pm PT
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Well, I was there as well but I missed the weekend fun. Wild weather as usual.....
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Cali
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Apr 11, 2019 - 08:41pm PT
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Going to hit the Eastside this weekend for the first time this year. So excited!
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BG
Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
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Apr 11, 2019 - 11:36pm PT
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Stimbo! That one's a real pig!
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otisdog
Social climber
Sierra Madre, Ca.
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Apr 15, 2019 - 01:28pm PT
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Thoughts?
The DFG is concerned that the regulations are so varied amongst the different waters- different seasons, different baits, different limits. Maybe they're as such because each body of water is unique, with different needs and solutions required for the health of each ecosystem.
I feel like the proposed new regs being dumbed down will only affect the waters in a negative way - the regs got to where they are for a reason, which is to individually address each body of waters specific needs. Caltrout had a part in doing the research that led to the current regs. To me this just looks like the DFG is too lazy....they already don't enforce the varied regulations in place.
I was strongly opposed to Hot Creek being open year round. Having fished the creek for over a half of a century, I just didn't see the need. Soon after this happened the trout population plummeted, to where fish were planted for the first time in decades. DFG blamed it on the drought. Funny, the drought did not have the same impact on nearby waters.
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Cali
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Apr 15, 2019 - 02:06pm PT
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Sorry but the drought crushed the trout populations in much of the Sierra. Hot Creek was decimated and it had nothing to do with being open all year. I am happy to say that it is recovering nicely now that we have had a couple decent years in a row (and the DFW has planted thousands of new fish in it). And it wasn't like the previous population of trout wasn't planted in Hot Creek anyway. The browns were planted after they Rotenoned the stream in the early 70s and the rainbows were introduced when the hatchery silted up during the earthquakes in 1980 and the hatchlings were released into the river rather than let them suffocate.
Not that I don't also think the new regulations are probably sh!t for the fish.
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BG
Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
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Apr 17, 2019 - 11:14pm PT
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I like the new proposal for opening up more CA freshwaters for year-round fishing!
Some of the new regulations look good, like zero bag limit for the East Walker, which is currently one fish over 18 inches from the last Saturday in April through Nov 15.
A couple of comments I submitted to the CDFW:
If the Crowley Lake bag limit were "2 fish take" and "4 in possession" instead of 5 and 10 the quality of the fishing would improve immensely. This is the bag limit used at Eagle Lake in Northern California with great success.
Also, if the "5 fish bag limit" is allowed for McGee Creek beginning the Saturday preceding Memorial Day, then the wild cutthroat that spawn in the creek will be decimated, since they spawn well into June. Don't open McGee Creek for bag limits until the month of July to protect the spawners.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Republic, WA
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May 19, 2019 - 08:03am PT
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Ever catch a Tiger Trout?
Very good table fare.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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May 19, 2019 - 01:35pm PT
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Nice fish Wayno. I was only vaguely aware of Tiger Trout, so I leaned on Wikipedia.
Tiger trout can be produced reliably in hatcheries. This is done by fertilizing brown trout eggs with brook trout milt and heat shocking, causing the creation of an extra set of chromosomes and increasing survival rates from 5% to 85%.[5] Tiger trout have been reported to grow faster than natural species,[6] though this assessment is not universal,[7] and they have been widely stocked for sport fishing.
Tiger trout are known to be highly piscivorous (fish-eating), and are a good control against rough fish populations. This makes tigers popular with many fish stocking programs, such as with the Utah Division of Wildlife Resources.[8] Their own population numbers can be tightly controlled as well, since they are sterile.
Also, I just read a great article on climbing & fishing cartoonist Sheridan Anderson & his trout fishing how-to book The Curtis Creek Manifesto. Thanks to Jon Beck for posting this link on the Sheridan Anderson thread. https://www.theflyfishjournal.com/exclusive/searching-for-sheridan/
And most importantly, a deep sigh of regret for us fishers losing this thread. Where the hell are we going to brag about our fishing prowness now??
Sigh!
Fritz & a friendly 26" bow about 10 miles from home.
A 28" bow fall 2017. Biggest trout I've caught this century.
A 28" Bulltrout I caught & released in the last century. He took a small dry fly in a riffle, which is strange behavior for them.
And the biggest Cutthroat I've ever caught up the butt. It fought like crazy, as would most creatures hooked in the same place.
Au revoir,
Fritz aka Ray Brooks https://www.facebook.com/groups/425056734950713/
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Stimbo
Trad climber
Crowley Lake
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May 25, 2019 - 04:37pm PT
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So long SuperTopo, it was fun while it lasted.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 25, 2019 - 04:50pm PT
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Someone should archive this thread....climbers may know shite about politics and religion but there have always been avid fishermen in the tribe....Chouinard comes to mind.
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