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Prod

Trad climber
Aug 27, 2011 - 10:01am PT
We just found 3 big piles of bear poop in our back yard this morning.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 27, 2011 - 10:05am PT
Serve it up on toast, a lot of people on this post could use the protein.
Prod

Trad climber
Aug 27, 2011 - 10:06am PT
Mostly berries Jim.

Prod.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 27, 2011 - 10:10am PT
Good, they could also use help with their bowel movements. I'm in Boulder, heading out to Sleeping Beauty in Boulder Canyon.
Prod

Trad climber
Aug 27, 2011 - 10:22am PT
Gotta work today. Riding tomorrow.

Have fun!

Prod.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 27, 2011 - 10:44am PT
Just one thing bothers me about all this; what's a "tat"?

Off to climb, somebody's gotta
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Aug 27, 2011 - 10:58am PT
meaty is clearly demented as GC points out.....

but the queen of the hour is of course, mimi. all i can say is poor steve, but based upon how high and might he thinks he is, they deserve eachother.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 27, 2011 - 12:14pm PT
Mimi writes,

"These guys came on the ST touting their glory and demanding a position of respect. ... What is wrong with trying to set the record straight when the FA initiated the whole thing?"

That is patently untrue. All you have to do is scroll to the beginning of this thread to see that. Mark and Richard came on to defend themselves. Five years later they have finally succeeded. Good on them and Ammon to right a quartery-century of wrongs.

"Now, the handful of detractors are viewed as the obsessed get a life losers."

Well, that bit is certainly true.

Meaty - you are a fool if you expect anyone to believe that your Supertopo account was hacked, and that you - Dimitri Barton - have not written each and every one of the words as Meaty, including the ones you so cowardly deleted yesterday or the day before. Your writing has been entirely consistent throughout, there has been no change before or after the alleged hacking.

If you're going to rant, at least have the balls to stand behind what you write and not delete it. You're a pathetic coward.

Emphatically concur with Granite climber regarding Mr. Barton, and with hawkeye regarding Dimitri and Mimi.
Meaty

climber
Aug 27, 2011 - 12:22pm PT
Pete. If you look at the comments from many years ago even Fatty (i think) noticed and a few others saying "are there two meaty's??" and such. Many posts from back then I DID NOT write, same from the other day and the hacker deleted a few of them.
The fact is someone did make there way into my account and deleted posts including some from the other day, and made posts. But obviously you're just not bright enough to notice, so sad for you, f*#king moron.

I stand by what a write and that includes my feeling that I could care less what you think about me or anything else for that matter. You're full of hype and innuendo calling me a lunatic and expect what from that? Respect? You're just another supertopo wanker.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Aug 27, 2011 - 12:37pm PT
I don't know, MeatTree doesn't seem like the type to pull any punches and some of the deleted posts were pretty benign, compared to the rest. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Innocence until proven guilty. This whole controversy started because the detractors assumed the climb was a botch without having climbed it, i.e. assumed guilty with no direct evidence.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 27, 2011 - 12:37pm PT
Hmmmm, Meaty - I almost half believe you. I did my best to bait you, and there was only a single F-bomb. I guess time will tell.

However, please answer me how your personal email account wrote my personal email account, and you told me to f*#k off?

Edit: I just read what buddy wrote below, and I see he now deleted it, and I thought about it some more. I have two serious problems with you saying that your account was hacked, and that all of the words written by the Meaty account are not the words of Dimitri Barton. You tell us that the posts deleted by you yesterday or the day before were not written by you. I don't believe you.

Firstly, you say that Fattrad wondered a long time ago if there were two Meatys. Accordingly, you would have known long ago that your account was hacked, and would have taken appropriate measures to stop it. But evidently you didn't, and you tell us the hacking continued. This makes no sense.

Secondly, how did you get your account hacked, and who did it? What would be their motivation? It's almost impossible in this day and age for anyone with half a brain to have their account hacked. In fact, you may be the ONE AND ONLY PERSON on the McTopo forum to have ever claimed to have had his account hacked.

How could this have happened? Your arguments lack logic and you do not appear credible. Please provide a reasonable explanation, and I will be happy to provide a reasonable apology.

Thanks.
WBraun

climber
Aug 27, 2011 - 12:43pm PT
"This whole controversy started because the detractors assumed the climb was a botch without having climbed it, .... "


No you're wrong as with many of the rest of you since you were not even there.

It started the minute they got to the base and started climbing.

Why do think they even had a big meeting with Richard and Mark.
Meaty

climber
Aug 27, 2011 - 12:52pm PT
Pete, you sure are full of delusional speculations. Why do you always ask stupid questions full of insults and expect and answer.

Edit: Again, more speculation from you, I noticed someone making comments using my account years ago, so did many others you dim bulb.
And more delusional questions from you? Why am I not surprised?
How to you suppose one is gonna explain the actions of someone else hacking their account?
You're just being a fool, eh?

I sent those messages to you, and they weren't nasty, just the truth.
If you don't believe me so what! Just look back at the comments here from years ago for the proof you idiot.

I don't expect nor want an apology from an as#@&%e like you, f*#k you. But I do expect more speculative postulations and all the drivel that comes from a dork like you.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 27, 2011 - 12:59pm PT
Meaty, I rephrased my question in an edit above. My questions are neither delusional nor speculative.

Please tell us all how your account got hacked, how your email sent nasty messages to mine, and most significantly, how you never noticed your account got hacked years ago, and allowed it to continue.

I don't believe you. I consider your claim that your account got hacked to be rubbish. Please convince me otherwise.

Dimitri Barton - please answer my rephrased question above. Thanks.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Aug 27, 2011 - 02:05pm PT
You're right Werner. Poor choice of words on my part. I understand the concern when guys with no El Cap experience show up, with a LOT of gear. But to go beyond concern to chopping the route etc. the detractors should have an airtight case against them, which they didn't and still don't IMO.
Meaty

climber
Aug 27, 2011 - 04:44pm PT
Ha, ha, ha! Not only do I know someone created another account, but someone also got my password for this account, used my e-mail, sent loads of dumb emails, posted tripe, and deleted those posts along with some of mine.....Russ.
Good bet it was the guy with the animal nickname.....Russ.

Funny how the dual account is now gone and this thread was scrubbed of all the posts years ago when some asked how it was possible another account was formed with exactly the same name, Meaty. Obviously an inside job, the only way that could've happened.Who scrubbed this thread?? Must be the cowards that just deleted their post under another phony handle "Meaty."..............COWARDS!!




EDIT: WOW! Looks like way more posts than I originally thought have been scrubbed. The WOS POS team has gone out of their way to revise history, One post from Werner that defended me is gone. Once he realized that Meaty was me and Randy Wenzel and the WOS chumps were accusing me of chopping and shitting he said it wasn't me that sh#t on the ropes, the cowards have removed that post and much much more. Clearly the WOS movie crew and revisionist historians are afraid of the truth. COWARDS!!!!!

So obviously they've gotta scrub the thread to revise history because of the upcoming movie: The Cricle Jerk of the Wannabes.

BTW I have a recording of Punk Roy singing the Wannabe song at the Mutants apartment on 1st street! Too funny!
chez

Social climber
chicago ill
Aug 27, 2011 - 06:38pm PT
What about the people that pulled the rope tight and cut it, sending it window shading up the rock.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Walla Walla, WA
Aug 27, 2011 - 11:12pm PT
Paul, I don't want to get all mushy, but thank you very much for the apology. I never felt like you were a hater. I'm not even sure how to respond. Like "apology accepted" seems too terse, but I really don't want to make a big deal out of it either, because your making fun wasn't a big deal.

Just want to acknowledge the class you demonstrated and thank you for it! No worries from my end at all. Best to you, bro.

Much appreciate so many of the other sentiments expressed also.
Da_Dweeb

climber
Aug 27, 2011 - 11:15pm PT
Folks, folks. Give it a rest. Mimi meme is of course undeniably correct about everything she has to say, because:

Meaty

climber
Aug 27, 2011 - 11:36pm PT
Sorry, no rest, especially for the wos pos team and their pals here on ST scrubbing this thread of many, many posts.
Looks like they're afraid of the truth that they've been using another account with my handle............COWARDS AND LIARS!!

Time for Pete to go crawl back up the as#@&%e he was born from.

A huge gap is now evident, from Dec.28, 2007, a post from Tom at 6:56pm, to Jul.15, 2008, a post from Peyton Hassinger at 10:29 am.

This is where someone was using an account with my handle posting all sorts of bullsh#t. Also in this missing gap of posts were a few post from Werner saying very clearly it wasn't me that sh#t on those ropes.

Pretty obvious the coward WOS POS team is afraid everyone might find out they trolled using my handle and also hacked my account.

You wanted some proof Pete, well f*#k you, there it is you kunt.
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