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Happiegrrrl2
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How do you think people will be saying "farewell" to Trump when his time in the oval office comes to an end? Here's what people have said about their most well remembered "Obama Moment."
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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infitinly more extreme on the right.
Hyperbole.
And who's rioting in the streets?
Who's doing the very things you admonished the right to NOT do when "Drumpf loses"?
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Bob, you're too frothy to deal with right now.
Sorry.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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"Bob, you're too frothy to deal with right now.
Sorry."
You said it was rigged, I said prove it. You can't. You are a long winded blowhard.
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Norton
Social climber
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I too would like to read how it was rigged, appreciate a well researched and conclusive answer
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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The Hillary rabbit hole is done and gone guys.
Drip, drip, drip...
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Norton
Social climber
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The only rigging was the DNC sandbagging Bernie.
a DNC lower level staffer wrote an email expressing his personal preference for that Hillary had a better chance of winning than Sanders and so therefore he felt the DNC should prioritize in that direction, this was discovered during the Russian hack of DNC
that guy was entitled to his opinion
so, explain exactly how this internal email curtailed, influenced, and/or insured that Bernie Sanders did not get the millions more votes during the Primary that he would have needed to beat Clinton
fill this forum with your strong and deep intelligence - prove the DNC plotted to stop Sanders,
explain exactly how they did this - either that or apologize for being so painfully uniformed,
easily influenced by your own partisan bias, and how you would benefit from taking a Critical Thinking Class
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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I don't think the DNC intentionally "rigged" the primaries in favor of Clinton or conspired to make sure she was the party's nominee. But, when they put in place the "superdelegate" system, the DNC afforded an insider like Clinton the opportunity to lock up those controlling delegates, basically locking out any other more viable candidate like Sanders. I think this was an unintentional consequence--but still a major mistake on the part of the DNC.
Curt
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Now we have to live with that.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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You said it was rigged, I said prove it. You can't. You are a long winded blowhard.
You said "prove it." I said, "proof" is impossible in all such subjects and provided good evidence for the very interpretation you said needed "proof."
You are a long-winded blowhard.
Nya-nyh-nyaaaah.
So, frickin childish!
Seriously, Bob, I have defended your perspectives in other threads, even when I thought that you were more abusive than "necessary." But, having myself been so often the brunt of your insults, over time I've lost all respect for you. You are one of those guys who literally cannot grant that ANYBODY can reasonably interpret a set of facts ANY other way than you do.
These "debates" are really stupid. On these threads, such a huge difference has emerged between the left and everybody who doesn't agree with EVERY proposition they try to float:
The left says: "EVERYTHING we say is true. EVERYTHING! EVERY perspective we have is accurate, science-driven, and the ONLY possible reasonable perspective to have. EVERYBODY who does not agree with EVERYTHING we say is (brace yourself): a stupid, ignorant, idiotic, racist, misogynist, hateful, deplorable, denying, wrong, filthy, disgusting, sh|thead." (and more.)
You will not accept that LOTS of very intelligent, well-read, educated, moral, decent people do not interpret a given set of facts like you do; and that such interpretation is every bit as reasonable as your own.
I know I'm wasting my breath to say this, so, as happens now and then, I tire of the "debate." You have NO interest in discussion by which you might come to understand the "other side." You want only to hear your own echos.
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Norton
Social climber
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Curt
explain why Mr Sanders was not knowledgable of the super delegate process
explain how Sanders chose to not use his decades of government contacts and process experience to not do exactly what Clinton did, reach out to and ask for the support of Super Delegates
even playing field, two equal government experience contestants, Bernie blew this, period
no one took it away from him, neither the DNC nor did Clinton, he lost, he lost by millions of votes in the Primary States and he lost clearly by the Super Delegates preferring Clinton
no "foul", sour grapes maybe
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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I know I'm wasting my breath to say this, so, as happens now and then, I tire of the "debate." You have NO interest in discussion by which you might come to understand the "other side." You want only to hear your own echos.
Weird that some people won't consider the Earth to be flat, isn't it?
Curt
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Norton
Social climber
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The only rigging was the DNC sandbagging Bernie.
a DNC lower level staffer wrote an email expressing his personal preference for that Hillary had a better chance of winning than Sanders and so therefore he felt the DNC should prioritize in that direction, this was discovered during the Russian hack of DNC
that guy was entitled to his opinion
so, explain exactly how this internal email curtailed, influenced, and/or insured that Bernie Sanders did not get the millions more votes during the Primary that he would have needed to beat Clinton
fill this forum with your strong and deep intelligence - prove the DNC plotted to stop Sanders,
explain exactly how they did this - either that or apologize for being so painfully uniformed,
easily influenced by your own partisan bias, and how you would benefit from taking a Critical Thinking Class
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Crankloon what part of the country do you live in..?
I live in dumbf*#kistan
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Haha. Pyro thinks "square acres" should vote instead of people. Interesting concept.
Curt
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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"Seriously, Bob, I have defended your perspectives in other threads, even when I thought that you were more abusive than "necessary." But, having myself been so often the brunt of your insults, over time I've lost all respect for you. You are one of those guys who literally cannot grant that ANYBODY can reasonably interpret a set of facts ANY other way than you do."
I asked you to prove it, that is all, again you wrote some long winded response that had nothing to do with defending what you said. Pretty simple.
You don't have to defend me or my position on issues.
You stated you HATE liberals, you are responding from anger...you are the one that is frothing, not me.
I'm in the middle and if you think wanting clean air, water, national healthcare and a government not run by idiots then label me any way you want.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Pyro doesn't understand that most of the world population lives on five percent of the land mass.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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MB1...simple four word question...How was it rigged?
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Clinton lost to irrational fear and hatred, fanned by Russia and Trump.
Now we have to live with it until Pence takes over.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Mexicans are murderers, Muslims are murderers, ban all Muslims, deport the Mexicans. What a way to start your run for president. Worked for getting the fearful and low information vote.
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