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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Feb 24, 2014 - 11:44am PT
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klk, I appreciate your input here. Clearly you are well informed.
One interesting thing I heard in a class long ago is that BigAg farms are the only ones who can afford to install equipment to conserve water. Is that true? I always got the feeling that instructor said some questionable stuff.
That boutique guy says he a dripper, and he's pretty small scale, right? (a little rise and shine jab for ya... just fooling around) Is there a step above drip irrigation in terms of water conservation? Direct watering to each plant's roots, rather than each plant? Specific timing of application?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Feb 24, 2014 - 11:55am PT
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I've seen underground irrigation for lawns. No spray at all, nothing lost to evaporation. ( and the Water Cops can't tell by looking if you're watering an *even* address on an *odd* day )
Works great, until you get gophers.
Over the years, the citrus grovers here have gone from flooding the groves via a series of open ditches, letting the water run through and then down the street, to a combined drip-spray system.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Feb 24, 2014 - 11:58am PT
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fuking gophers (actually voles) destroyed my stream channel. vole stew is on the menu.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Feb 24, 2014 - 12:29pm PT
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the citrus grovers here have gone from flooding the groves via a series of open ditches, letting the water run through and then down the street, to a combined drip-spray system.
I lived across the street from Redlands East Valley high for some years, pretty close to your neck of the woods. They were flooding, this was less than 4 years ago.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Feb 24, 2014 - 12:40pm PT
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Hey there Pat!
natural resources and hydrology at Columbia College (then CJC in 1974-77)
Did you have Ross Carkeet as an instructor? I took an enviro class from him when I was there(90-92) doing the Fire program and then classes to go to a U. Man, I loved that lil school, bouldering and Manzanita101 between classes was priceless!
Oh, and thanks for the thread, full of great info and one of the reasons I visit this zone!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Feb 24, 2014 - 01:30pm PT
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ElCapinyoazz writes:
"I lived across the street from Redlands East Valley high for some years, pretty close to your neck of the woods. They were flooding, this was less than 4 years ago."
I see that too. It's not municipal, tap water. It's totally untreated, unfiltered water. Straight out of Big Bear. My guess is someone's flushing their irrigation system when it runs like that.
I remember once clearing the system of dozens of vertebrae bones that were plugging everything. A snake had apparently fell in upstream, and decomposed on his way down.
I've been walking around in the groves since '08, trying to archive the wind machines. And while I see remnants of the old timey concrete flumes, I haven't seen any in working order. I'll bet the switch to plastic hose / plastic emitters was more of a labor saving decision rather than one of water conservation.
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John M
climber
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Feb 24, 2014 - 02:09pm PT
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Badger Pass at the end of Feb..
come on Snow!
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scuffy b
climber
heading slowly NNW
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Feb 24, 2014 - 04:22pm PT
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Chaz, do you know how much water one of your avocado trees requires?
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Feb 24, 2014 - 05:31pm PT
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Rain is on the way : )
also,
Chaz, do you know how much water one of your avocado trees requires?
Avocado trees don't like water much.
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bergbryce
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Feb 24, 2014 - 08:01pm PT
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Big precipitation event on tap for all of California this coming week. Let's hope for some big totals from San Diego to Alturas.
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Yak-Chik
Trad climber
Phoenix
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Feb 24, 2014 - 08:09pm PT
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Don't believe the forcasts. The only way to be sure it
will rain in LA is to wash and wax your ferrari and no one is allowed to do that with the drought and all.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Feb 25, 2014 - 01:34pm PT
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khanom,
Thanks for your thoughts. I was taken by your mentioning mulch. It strikes me that the use of organic mulches is much underutilized.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Feb 25, 2014 - 02:09pm PT
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My arthritic toes are predicting rain, but from what the full view Pacific satellite looks like, I'm thinking 3/4"-1" for the whole event in the SGV.
Not gonna be that big a storm.
If I lived in Glendora under the burn area, I'd be getting ready for 4".
Just in case.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 25, 2014 - 02:33pm PT
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7300' in the Sandias above Albuquerque. There would normally be a few feet here.
A lot of wells up there are drying up, too.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Feb 25, 2014 - 03:24pm PT
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Much like having winter cold is not an indication that global warming is a lie, 1 rainstorm does not a drought end. But at least some is heading over soon.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 25, 2014 - 03:33pm PT
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DMT, you should know better, those are the hippy rels' Crocs.
I had my Ferragamos on.
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Feb 28, 2014 - 12:21pm PT
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It's coming down pretty good here in north OC. 6-8" total (of rain) expected from the systems we've had and will have over a few days...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 28, 2014 - 12:24pm PT
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It's ovah! Woo-hoo!
Well, for a day or two. Shoulda cleaned the damn gutter.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Feb 28, 2014 - 01:08pm PT
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Still pouring in Riverside. I'm headed to see Banff FF in Redlands after work...looks like a big end-around to Beaumont to hit the 10, not willing to risk San Timeteo being flooded out in sections.
Supposed to rain hard through tomorrow here. Our work location floods in places, should be pretty interesting this afternoon, we had some rescues in the last couple of significat rainfall events when numpties tried to drive through 3' deep flooded roadways.
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bergbryce
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Feb 28, 2014 - 02:13pm PT
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This is a cool NOAA page that lets you look at precip totals across all of California's watersheds. Some big totals out there, 5"+ not uncommon with more on the way.
http://www.cnrfc.noaa.gov/google.php?type=precip
You can tweak with the data ranges, etc on the right side.
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