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dipper
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Aug 27, 2011 - 03:21am PT
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MeMe, er, Mimi wrote:
"...now the route's been climbed and we'll finally have an accurate account."
It appears her sense of what is important in life is significantly distorted.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Aug 27, 2011 - 07:29am PT
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Mimi, Climbs are not movies. If you bash one without being able to climb it you look like an ass. If you call the FA team incompetent fools when their climb is too hard for YOU to climb you look like a pathetic asshat. The Only way that one can prove that a climb is over rated or over protected or whatever is to climb it. If you hike the thing in your Tevas you have a right to downgrade it or whatever. You still may look like an ass but you have earned that right. If you go public with the trash talk about a route that you have not climbed and most likly can not climb then you do in fact come accross as a pathetic asshat.
You should know that climbers have tons of silly unwritten rules many of which make little sense yet this rule does in fact have merit... It is the good old classic. Put up or shut up!
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Prod
Trad climber
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Aug 27, 2011 - 09:52am PT
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Is it irony that DMT, the writer of one of the best series of poop threads, is calling out the shitters? Or just a cyocoprophliac obsession?
Prod.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Aug 27, 2011 - 10:01am PT
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We just found 3 big piles of bear poop in our back yard this morning.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 27, 2011 - 10:05am PT
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Serve it up on toast, a lot of people on this post could use the protein.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Aug 27, 2011 - 10:06am PT
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Mostly berries Jim.
Prod.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 27, 2011 - 10:10am PT
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Good, they could also use help with their bowel movements. I'm in Boulder, heading out to Sleeping Beauty in Boulder Canyon.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Aug 27, 2011 - 10:22am PT
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Gotta work today. Riding tomorrow.
Have fun!
Prod.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 27, 2011 - 10:44am PT
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Just one thing bothers me about all this; what's a "tat"?
Off to climb, somebody's gotta
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Aug 27, 2011 - 10:58am PT
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meaty is clearly demented as GC points out.....
but the queen of the hour is of course, mimi. all i can say is poor steve, but based upon how high and might he thinks he is, they deserve eachother.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Aug 27, 2011 - 12:14pm PT
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Mimi writes,
"These guys came on the ST touting their glory and demanding a position of respect. ... What is wrong with trying to set the record straight when the FA initiated the whole thing?"
That is patently untrue. All you have to do is scroll to the beginning of this thread to see that. Mark and Richard came on to defend themselves. Five years later they have finally succeeded. Good on them and Ammon to right a quartery-century of wrongs.
"Now, the handful of detractors are viewed as the obsessed get a life losers."
Well, that bit is certainly true.
Meaty - you are a fool if you expect anyone to believe that your Supertopo account was hacked, and that you - Dimitri Barton - have not written each and every one of the words as Meaty, including the ones you so cowardly deleted yesterday or the day before. Your writing has been entirely consistent throughout, there has been no change before or after the alleged hacking.
If you're going to rant, at least have the balls to stand behind what you write and not delete it. You're a pathetic coward.
Emphatically concur with Granite climber regarding Mr. Barton, and with hawkeye regarding Dimitri and Mimi.
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Meaty
climber
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Aug 27, 2011 - 12:22pm PT
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Pete. If you look at the comments from many years ago even Fatty (i think) noticed and a few others saying "are there two meaty's??" and such. Many posts from back then I DID NOT write, same from the other day and the hacker deleted a few of them.
The fact is someone did make there way into my account and deleted posts including some from the other day, and made posts. But obviously you're just not bright enough to notice, so sad for you, f*#king moron.
I stand by what a write and that includes my feeling that I could care less what you think about me or anything else for that matter. You're full of hype and innuendo calling me a lunatic and expect what from that? Respect? You're just another supertopo wanker.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Aug 27, 2011 - 12:37pm PT
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I don't know, MeatTree doesn't seem like the type to pull any punches and some of the deleted posts were pretty benign, compared to the rest. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Innocence until proven guilty. This whole controversy started because the detractors assumed the climb was a botch without having climbed it, i.e. assumed guilty with no direct evidence.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Aug 27, 2011 - 12:37pm PT
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Hmmmm, Meaty - I almost half believe you. I did my best to bait you, and there was only a single F-bomb. I guess time will tell.
However, please answer me how your personal email account wrote my personal email account, and you told me to f*#k off?
Edit: I just read what buddy wrote below, and I see he now deleted it, and I thought about it some more. I have two serious problems with you saying that your account was hacked, and that all of the words written by the Meaty account are not the words of Dimitri Barton. You tell us that the posts deleted by you yesterday or the day before were not written by you. I don't believe you.
Firstly, you say that Fattrad wondered a long time ago if there were two Meatys. Accordingly, you would have known long ago that your account was hacked, and would have taken appropriate measures to stop it. But evidently you didn't, and you tell us the hacking continued. This makes no sense.
Secondly, how did you get your account hacked, and who did it? What would be their motivation? It's almost impossible in this day and age for anyone with half a brain to have their account hacked. In fact, you may be the ONE AND ONLY PERSON on the McTopo forum to have ever claimed to have had his account hacked.
How could this have happened? Your arguments lack logic and you do not appear credible. Please provide a reasonable explanation, and I will be happy to provide a reasonable apology.
Thanks.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 27, 2011 - 12:43pm PT
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"This whole controversy started because the detractors assumed the climb was a botch without having climbed it, .... "
No you're wrong as with many of the rest of you since you were not even there.
It started the minute they got to the base and started climbing.
Why do think they even had a big meeting with Richard and Mark.
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Meaty
climber
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Aug 27, 2011 - 12:52pm PT
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Pete, you sure are full of delusional speculations. Why do you always ask stupid questions full of insults and expect and answer.
Edit: Again, more speculation from you, I noticed someone making comments using my account years ago, so did many others you dim bulb.
And more delusional questions from you? Why am I not surprised?
How to you suppose one is gonna explain the actions of someone else hacking their account?
You're just being a fool, eh?
I sent those messages to you, and they weren't nasty, just the truth.
If you don't believe me so what! Just look back at the comments here from years ago for the proof you idiot.
I don't expect nor want an apology from an as#@&%e like you, f*#k you. But I do expect more speculative postulations and all the drivel that comes from a dork like you.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Aug 27, 2011 - 12:59pm PT
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Meaty, I rephrased my question in an edit above. My questions are neither delusional nor speculative.
Please tell us all how your account got hacked, how your email sent nasty messages to mine, and most significantly, how you never noticed your account got hacked years ago, and allowed it to continue.
I don't believe you. I consider your claim that your account got hacked to be rubbish. Please convince me otherwise.
Dimitri Barton - please answer my rephrased question above. Thanks.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Aug 27, 2011 - 02:05pm PT
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You're right Werner. Poor choice of words on my part. I understand the concern when guys with no El Cap experience show up, with a LOT of gear. But to go beyond concern to chopping the route etc. the detractors should have an airtight case against them, which they didn't and still don't IMO.
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Meaty
climber
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Aug 27, 2011 - 04:44pm PT
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Ha, ha, ha! Not only do I know someone created another account, but someone also got my password for this account, used my e-mail, sent loads of dumb emails, posted tripe, and deleted those posts along with some of mine.....Russ.
Good bet it was the guy with the animal nickname.....Russ.
Funny how the dual account is now gone and this thread was scrubbed of all the posts years ago when some asked how it was possible another account was formed with exactly the same name, Meaty. Obviously an inside job, the only way that could've happened.Who scrubbed this thread?? Must be the cowards that just deleted their post under another phony handle "Meaty."..............COWARDS!!
EDIT: WOW! Looks like way more posts than I originally thought have been scrubbed. The WOS POS team has gone out of their way to revise history, One post from Werner that defended me is gone. Once he realized that Meaty was me and Randy Wenzel and the WOS chumps were accusing me of chopping and shitting he said it wasn't me that sh#t on the ropes, the cowards have removed that post and much much more. Clearly the WOS movie crew and revisionist historians are afraid of the truth. COWARDS!!!!!
So obviously they've gotta scrub the thread to revise history because of the upcoming movie: The Cricle Jerk of the Wannabes.
BTW I have a recording of Punk Roy singing the Wannabe song at the Mutants apartment on 1st street! Too funny!
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chez
Social climber
chicago ill
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Aug 27, 2011 - 06:38pm PT
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What about the people that pulled the rope tight and cut it, sending it window shading up the rock.
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