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Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 30, 2011 - 02:49pm PT
You really otta come up and get on some of our new routes. You can climb .10-.11 plus slab can't ya?

My climbing sux right now, but, to be serious for a moment, I'd like to see some of your new routes, if the Sierra ever opens up this year. GC assures me you're a safe climber, and if your OK with that guy, you're OK with anybody!

Rope up I say. Lots of hidden boulder and tree wells lurking up yonder. Complacency indeed kills.

Complacency, IMHO, might be the number one killer of climbers. Now, to get back to harrassing you :-), roping up on those Palisade glaciers might be overkill, though. I understand when guiding you're acting under different constraints. Crossing snow bridges over the creeks ALWAYS gives me the willies, but belaying across them seems to be a bit much.

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 30, 2011 - 03:33pm PT

Genetics, dinosaurs, men on the moon. All bullsh#t. For every co-called fact they can give me, i can dismiss it as fabricated nonsense. It's already a well-known-fact that all the moon landings were faked. Man has never set foot into space, and I would be willing to bet that nothing else has either. All the pictures from so-called sattelites ... FAKE, all pictures from other plantes ... FAKE, and how can we believe most so-called fossils are truly what they say if their so-called carbon dating bullshit comes from these perverting scientists too? In truth - We can't.

Oh we have all seen the pictures of a cloned sheep. Ha ha. Like all sheep don't look identical. Prove to me it was cloned, and not just some slight-of-hand magician's trick to make the masses actually believe cloning is possible.

So in an effort to prove these pathetic scientists wrong, I set them a task. They ask me to prove God exists? Well I asked them to prove to me the Earth is round, not flat. Prove this to me - NOT with so-called 'genuine' pictures from 'outerspace', or any of your other science fiction bullsh#t.

Because we know that it is flat, and that God lets people 'flip' to the other side safely.
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=4295
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 30, 2011 - 04:11pm PT
That'd be good old Gerry, correct?

Good man indeed!!!!!

Correct. Gerry is as genuine as they come.
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Jun 30, 2011 - 08:14pm PT
view and spew, libs, view and spew:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvObfrs3qoE

Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 1, 2011 - 12:08pm PT
DMT is right, Ed is a class act. That idea of working through the paper is still a good one, Ed. It sounds interesting.

And that's a great photo of Gerry, Ed. Zion?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jul 3, 2011 - 07:22pm PT
Yeah, Ed!

I find it very suspicious that all those smart people in science are "liberals".

Gee, that must make all stupid people "conservatives" if all the liberals are the smart ones.

And the word "elitist" is getting a lot of play lately. Elitist nowadays describes
someone who has "education", as in college or Masters or Doctorate level education.

I would be proud if I had the brains to achieve and excel in a post graduate field of study.



But not me, I am going to call my Cable Guy when I have a heart attack.

None of that Harvard educated Cardiologist "elitist" stuff for me!
corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:36pm PT
Lets play the what if game: if AGW is true and it gets warmer then wheat
can be grown further north in Asia and North America thus feeding
the growing world population. Growing seasons lengthen. Rice and sugar cane
regions expand.

Warmist thinking is to seek to stop this so they are
acting like evil nazi sock puppets and basically the enemy of mankind.



corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:51pm PT
Wes - you are of course confusing weather with climate again.

The inability to learn this means you're a simple minded 2-dimensional poster and can be forgiven.

-cheers

corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:04pm PT
Ed - and what if rainfall does not decrease?

The only certainty is if I have to buy carbon credits from you and Al Gore for just being alive I will be poorer. Everyone will be except the jet setting IPCC types.

Wes - you're clucking like a 'sky is falling' warmist now.
corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:54pm PT

Ed - Google crop irrigation and learn why crops can be grown anywhere
its not that cold.


So its obvious you've lost this argument again today. The weather is unpredictable yet you Warmists falsely claim you can predict it just like the world climate. So absurd that its really a declaration of defeat.

And I'll accept it graciously.

Any country that turns its back on fossil fuels will fail
in the worlds economy. Don't think we'll let you scammers do
that to America.


Dr F -look in the mirror and ponder why extinction of parasites is so
rare.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Jul 5, 2011 - 03:03pm PT

The New Normal, an interesting article.

http://climatide.wgbh.org/2011/07/the-new-normal-starts-today/
corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Jul 5, 2011 - 03:31pm PT
the fundamental aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed,
and hence clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless
series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary … the desire to save the world
usually fronts a desire to rule it.

http://leatherheadblog.com/2008/12/05/top-10-global-warming-myths/





dirtbag

climber
Jul 5, 2011 - 03:34pm PT
Christ, what an idiot.
corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Jul 5, 2011 - 04:15pm PT
LAST WEEK Gordon Brown and his chief economist both said global warming was
the worst“market failure” ever.

That loaded sound-bite suggests the “climate-change” scare is less about
saving the planet than, in Jacques Chirac’s chilling phrase,
“creating world government”.

This week and next, I’ll reveal how politicians, scientists and bureaucrats contrived a threat of Biblical floods, droughts, plagues, and extinctions...

from Apocalypse Canceled by Christopher Monckton

http://meteo.lcd.lu/globalwarming/Monckton/apocalypse_cancelled.pdf
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 5, 2011 - 04:31pm PT
Uh, That's H.L. Mencken there Ed.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 5, 2011 - 09:10pm PT
You just got the quote origination wrong there.

A fairly well known one.

people do not want to accept reality. That is why they locked up Galileo.

A bit more complicated than that.

Keep in mind that in Galileo's time the terms Astronomer and Astrologer were for all practical purposes synonymous. He was about to upset the apple cart for an entire, hugely profitable, monopolistic industry.

The one that finally drives a stake in the heart of AGM will receive a similar reception.
corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Jul 5, 2011 - 09:36pm PT
In case anyone still has brain cells that don't need to be rested after a days work check this
http://scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts/2008/06/you_can_prove_a_negative.php

Ed - there are many things civilization can do: continue work to increase the efficient use of energy and the processing of waste products for instance.

We should not do such ridiculous things as tax CO2 emissions.



corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Jul 5, 2011 - 09:55pm PT
Scare Stories: Fear Sells
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRafP_fSFbg


The public have realized that they don't need to worry about AGW and that
Carbon Taxing is a scam.


TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 5, 2011 - 11:47pm PT
That's quite a leap to presume I have a "disdain for scientists", although I have spent 40 years cleaning up after engineers.

There is a distinct difference.

It's a bit ironic in regards to this discussion that Galileo disproved an overly complicated mathematical model that had held sway for a thousand years or so by relying on observation and first principles.
dirtbag

climber
Jul 5, 2011 - 11:56pm PT

So do tell us WS, wtf kind of fossil fuel free type vehicle are you driving these days?

Hey Chief,

Most of us here drive gasoline consuming vehicles. That's life in the 21st century and for the 1000th time, no one here is saying we should all go live in a cave and give it up overnight. There's nothing hypocritical in that.

Comprende, Jefe?
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