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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 17, 2009 - 02:37am PT
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Mono, other plane wrecks leave pieces of the plane. Lots of them. But here, there are not even any wings. Where they were supposed to hit the building, there's very little damage. Take a look at the right where the wing was supposed to have hit so hard, it vaporized. And you're telling me that the entire plane melted? From a huge fire?? If that's the case, then the building, where the wings fizzled up in smoke, should be crispy like burned fried chicken. To me, the chit doesn't fly--way too many "suspension of disbelief" things going on here.
Look at your own friggin photo. You know, where it says "Right wing impact damage." Look at that and tell me that's where the wing hit so hard, burned so hot, that it disappeared.
But, I appreciate that some folks buy, hook line and sinker, all the crap that is written by the Gov't on 911. Funny, though, that those folks (CIA, NSA, Military, Navy SEALS, and so on) in my link don't buy it. And some of them were right there.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Sep 17, 2009 - 02:46am PT
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"Dude, there was an intense fire. Planes are made of aluminum."
Yes but the engines are made of tons of titanium. Where are they? They should have punched significant holes in the building along the wing damage zone. Where is that damage? Jet fuel does NOT burn hot enough to vaporize titanium. So where are those big engines?
Those of you with your Fux news blinders on too tight wont remember that initially there was only a small round hole. That was covered up with a huge tarp before the roof line collapsed. Curiouser and curiouser.
So many of you would rather believe the unbelievable because you were told to. And it is so much easier than thinking critically and analytically. Because, you know, the US of A never does anything wrong right?
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S.Powers
Boulder climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Sep 17, 2009 - 03:58am PT
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I think this has something to do with the rabid cat at the fish compound.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 17, 2009 - 01:40pm PT
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Oh, yes the Pentalawn 2000 . . .
Yep, that civilian commercial jet just slammed into the Pentagon and went through a 16' - 18' diameter hole and the wings just folded up like some umbrella and went on in with it. Had to since there isn't any debri immediatly after the impact and explosion. Where did all the debri go? Yea, it just vaporized like magic. And they call us "Conspiracy Theorists." Dang, now the OCT is having us believe in magic.
Hey, yo, guvment! Just release all the video and images of the Pentagon strike and it will all be over. Waiting . . . Waitng still . . . Waiting . . . Nutin but crickets . . .
Enjoy!
PentaLawn 2000!
http://www.rense.com/general29/penta.htm
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pedge
Trad climber
SW
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Sep 17, 2009 - 02:26pm PT
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Dude, you are obsessed and crazy. Step back from the nit picking debates of the details of what you think is irrefutable evidence, and engage in some big picture analysis. And then share it. Who and why and what else would you necessarily expect to happen if it was a missile rather than an airplane. Its how you keep perspective which is essential to functioning as a contributing citizen rather than as a crank.
Compare to the Gulf of Tonkin, what happened, why and what was revealed and when and how, and evaluate the big picture reality of your hypothesis. Where is the meaningful motive, means or corroboration in real world follow up events? Some of these questions are raised by other posters.
But on the details, do you really need to wait for someone to explain the difference between a non functioning airplane plowing into the ground and a functional plane flying low but trying to remain level, dipping and getting a ground effect lift?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 17, 2009 - 02:51pm PT
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Ah, yes the classic Pentagon Strike! An oldy but a darn goody. It was the first short video clip that really got me thinking about the truth of 9-11. Still valid many years later although we now know so much more. See Pilots for 9-11 Truth website. The evidence is overwhelming that flight 77 did not slame into and strike the Pentagon.
The evidence suggests: a missile, or a small jet aircraft, or a small jet aircraft with a missile. That is what the evidence demonstrates over and over, from all points of view. That means MIHOP.
Like I said release all the confiscated videos and images. Prove it. Still waiting . . .
Pentagon Strike!
http://www.ottawa911truth.com/images/pentagonstrike.swf
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 17, 2009 - 03:34pm PT
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"To go into the conspiracy angle further than I have evidence for, to those who say the witnesses saw an airplane strike the building, perspective is easily fooled. A much smaller vehicle painted as a scale model could easily been mistaken for a MUCH LARGER vehicle much further away, at 400-500 MPH. Say something about 1/4 the size, just to pick a number. "
This sh#t keeps getting funnier and funnier.
Maybe a wolf piloted it?
It's fun to make up stuff, isn't it. I could do it all day long, yee-haw.
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 17, 2009 - 03:45pm PT
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Oh I'm just admiring your active imagination. CTers have a pretty active imagination, I'll give them that.
Flying a model in place of a plane is like a wolf in sheep's clothing. LOL!
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 17, 2009 - 03:53pm PT
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Well Wolf-Boy, for starters I thought the photos/article monolith provided seemed persuasive.
But if you want to find a bogeyman somewhere, have at it.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Sep 17, 2009 - 03:56pm PT
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Inflatable plane...... filled with hydrogen and sporting a nose full of thermite
(obviously)
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wally
Trad climber
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Sep 17, 2009 - 04:34pm PT
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Don't forget the magical vapourizing twin jet engines which like rokjok said CAN ONLY BE MELTED IN AN ELECTRIC ARC FURNACE. But they vanished right???
Cause it makes allot of sense that jet fuel alone could melt them or they would crush up like a tin can.
Please open your eyes/brains people
I would be happy if someone could explain to me(a total nut job bent on conspiracy theories) How NASA could have recorded temps over 1000 degrees F a week after the collisons took place. Jet fuel dosen't burn that high. Friction could not creat that kind of temp. Energy isn't created or destroyed so HOW???
Did maybe the towers fall into a hidden lava pool, or maybe puncture the earths crust causing a venturi effect that brough magma up to the surface?
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Sep 17, 2009 - 04:40pm PT
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Lance Lynch / Rokjox writes: (After all, I have MET Russ.)
That there is a leg humping lie. Date, time and pics please.
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pedge
Trad climber
SW
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Sep 17, 2009 - 04:42pm PT
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Pudgy? The BF is still below 6% and thats an objective measurement.
Name calling again? Depressing.
If they wanted us to believe it was an airplane, why wouldn't they just use one rather than a missile, given their resources?
I am not a structural engineer, but wouldn't you expect the many who are to be up in arms about this if the damage to the Pentagon was as obviously inconsistent with an airplane strike as you insist? The photos are widely available.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Sep 17, 2009 - 04:44pm PT
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When (in the USA) you hear a bunch of hooves approaching, don't think "zebras"
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 17, 2009 - 04:45pm PT
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No engines? Christ, do you guys even do basic googling before spouting off nonsense? (apparently not)
(Actually, googling reveals tons of photos of wreckage)
Can't see Wolf Boy's photo on my server--I guess the Illuminati is concealing it from me.
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wally
Trad climber
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Sep 17, 2009 - 04:50pm PT
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Would you put a six figure salary on the line to try and exspose your government?
Please i'm real dumb someone explain to me: Where is the wreckage of that plane?
Where did the engines go?
Why is the hole so small?
Why isn't their some burned grass (from engine exhast of the jet engines leading up to the building)
It's easy to call people crazy and say were full of sh#t. But it might be easier then realizing the truth.
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 17, 2009 - 04:51pm PT
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No Wally, there are no photos of engines anywhere: no engines were ever found.
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cleo
Social climber
Berkeley, CA
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Sep 17, 2009 - 05:14pm PT
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dirtbag,
you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
thank god most of us drink (or, in this case, think). time to go do something productive, your head must be killing you from butting it against the wall.
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 17, 2009 - 05:14pm PT
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Cleo,the laughter helps and if nothing else this thread does supply a good dose or two of that.
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