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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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worst thing about warm weather wax is trying to scrape it off when it gets cold again. I tried to do a big loop a few days ago. It started out ok with the trail broken but then I got into unbroken trail and lots of downed trees from the storm. There was one big snow snake out there that got me on a downhill with funky snow cat tracks none of the trail markers were in the fields and some seemed to be missing from key trail junctions. Its not my home turf so I ended up getting a bit turned arround got stuck in some pretty thick woods and a creek bottom but eventually found the van again :)
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Maysho
climber
Soda Springs, CA
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Cool Video! I'm a big fan of APU Racers!
A small cadre of us crust cruise in the Sierra every spring after a good winter. Evolution Loop is one spectacular route here is an old thread with that story: http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/859199/Evolution-Skate-Ski-Alpinism-TR. Echo Lakes area is a nice place to do it, Hwy 50 up to Aloha and back, not too committing, not too steep.
New Skin skis are pretty great for high-performance waxless for classic groomed track. I don't own any yet, as a racer I remain a "student" of waxing. Heading out right now on Royal Gorge tracks. Adjacent to my home, 22f, still fresh snow, easy extra blue.
Sierra snowpack is off to a great start, get out there!
Peter
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Will Elon Musk take wax or waxless boards to Mars?
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Man, how did I miss the skate ski alpinism?!?! Thanks for the bump of it Maysho!
Cross country/Nordic skiing is pretty damn coo!
Crust cruising is to Nordic like Powder(I mean light cold smoke) is to downhill skiing.
I've been looking for Nordic zones like those in the alpinism thread and I might just need to look a little harder and farther away...
For now, I'll take the C'Roy that the 'bilers maintain throughout the season. They groom hundreds of miles within 1.5hr drive and I hardly ever see another Nordic skier on it. If I start in the dark, I seem to get about 2-3 hrs of alone time before the 'bilers show up and they are always friendly and slow down. I donate to the 'bilers instead of the local snow-roadie club, they do more and are hella nice folks!
One morning a couple years ago....
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Great thread and interesting perspectives, thanks all. I've skied for many years and instructed by Sven Wick in Steamboat mid sixties. He preached learning on a pine-tarred base. Mid-week brought out the colored Rex's, or the Rabbit J dry/wet 2 wax on the pine tarred base.
Loved the look and feel of my wood skis but they broke far too easily in the Wasatch range which was home. We pushed the limits of our waxed 3-pin Bonna 2 and 2400's, and subsequent use of plastic push on tips. Pause for memories
I still XC all the time, particularly up Hyalite and wood still rules, but generally limited to it's core. I love my Madshus as they have wood torsion box and SIDECUT, something some classic xc skis don't.
Like Maysho, I'm a student of wax...but at 65 I've one rule, never wax softer than extra blue, ever, well mabey that white blue/purple stuff lightly. I grab my waxless setup (like hobo) when near freezing. Again I've always lived in the intermountain west with dry, cold snow predominant. Purple wax ices like crazy in shadows on a warm day and I hate the chemicals to remove fully.
I've taken interest in the Skin-tec also though not tried. My wife of many years tells me 'you wouldn't like it, I've never known anyone that complains about poor glide than you"...shes right WAX rules!
Here in Boz this am it's hovering around zero, hoping the sun warms. It could be conditions for the Minnesota Special Turquoise pictured on left!!!full tube to boot.
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Todd Eastman
Social climber
Putney, VT
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Klister covered in Craftsbury this weekend, unless skating on slow cold snow floats yer boat.
Demo Saturday and Sunday, if yer in the hood, stop by and try some new skis.
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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^^^^^I prefer the "pure ice" when stranded on rock rather the xc hills.
I admit I occasionally love klister. Spring crusin Yellowstone crust is fun. and yes the snow in SW Montana is slow and cold, local hills help that.
Todd, I've a couple friends in Putney, Scott Wade and Kyle Tyler.
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Todd Eastman
Social climber
Putney, VT
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We had Scott over for dinner the other night, Kyle's working at Bridger Bowl...
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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crazy about Scott, Todd. I know your name, we might've met. I thought Kyle was headed back east, guess he got the job he was hoping for. I know he misses it. Ask Scott @ the cold dry sh#t, he says he's back out in March. Best Donnie Black
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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I always thought that cross country skiing was not something that people liked to do. I always thought it was a necessary means to an end - like getting to a peak.
Just kidding.
I mean to say, "...like getting to a hot spring."
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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In Norway it was a means towards blowing up Nazis.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Older stuff
I used to love skating on groomed tracks
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Crossing a different kind of country
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Good exercise...go to the right places and you might see a Wolverine.
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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XC's do open the door to exercise in great country.
Like Ghost and SLR I've enjoyed them in mountainous locations. On the Ruth we had them xtra at our upper west fork climbing camp for fun nearby excursions.
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Sorry to offend tt^^^ thanks for mentioning the other threads.
What does define XC skiing? Should this thread be limited to Nordic resorts? Groom only...
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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maybe too much pale ale???
I feel that Nordic skiing is one of the best training tools for ice climbing. I absolutely love it. I think I could get in pretty decent shape if I could di it all summer....
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Jay S
Mountain climber
Silver Gate, Mt
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