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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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jabbas- The number of retail shops was pretty small back in those days so the two Bills had to know each other. The Summit Hut carried Dolt gear in 1970 when I started climbing and had done so for years. Sure wish that I had bought it all, BITD! Who knew...
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LilaBiene
Trad climber
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May 19, 2013 - 11:13pm PT
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Hey Marty!
Thanks so much for posting a picture of the stamps -- they're beautiful. I'm so glad they're in good hands. ")
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Roots
Mountain climber
SoCal
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Sep 30, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
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DOLT bump!
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LilaBiene
Trad climber
Technically...the spawning grounds of Yosemite
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:D I have a few more, but I wouldn't want to bore y'all to tears.
Edit:
Thanks for catching my typo, Clint.
Bill's grandmother on his father's side was Caroline Bechtold, daughter of Ambros Bechtold and Theresia Hoerth. The families were in winemaking, going back generations. We'll have to wait until late October to learn who Bill's mother's parents were -- this is when the genealogist was able to make an appointment with the church to view the records. Despite untold hours of research, I haven't been able to determine how she is connected to a cousin and certain uncles who also came to the U.S. after WWI.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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I'm seeing a marriage of Maximilian Feurer and Luitgard König on 24 Nov? 1858.
With him age 30 (geb. 12/3 Okt 1828) and her age 24 (geb. 6 Jun 1834).
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Not boring me and this is the perfect thread for all things Dolt!
Thanks for sharing your discoveries with us.
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Don Lauria
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 8, 2013 - 02:30pm PT
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Those Dolt stamps were part of the Dolt estate that I purchased at auction after his death. Marty has pretty much acquired everything Dolt that I had left after keeping these things in my garage for decades.
A lot of stuff got away from me though and I have no recollection of how or when. Things like the Dolt winch, the Dolt cart, his 150 lb. anvil mounted on a tree stump, and , of course, the beautiful set of polished Dolt pegs that were somehow left out of his estate. I think RJ Secor has the answer to that riddle, but he has never come clean. Ah, sweet mysteries of life.
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LilaBiene
Trad climber
Technically...the spawning grounds of Yosemite
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Here is a copy of the marriage record for Bill's mother's parents in Weidach (near Stuttgart), Germany. His grandparents were Paul Albert Gohl of Degerloch and Johanna Barbara Mueller of Weidach.
Bill's mother's name was Emma Klara Gohl, and she had 3 siblings. She came to the US at 17 in 1922 with her 16-year-old cousin Lina Strobel to stay with an uncle in Brooklyn, NY. Her grandparents were Karl Friedrich Gohl and Karoline Luise Ries (or Kies), both of Degerloch, and Johann Georg Mueller and Maria Katharina Keppler of Weidach and Stetten, respectively.
It is probably only a coincidence, but Bill's grandmother and the family that so kindly raised Bill until majority share the same family name: Mueller. It was Mrs. Clara Mueller of Monee, Illinois, that took Bill home from the Ulich Orphan Home in Chicago in 1939.
I'm still researching to try to see if I can find any living descendants of Bill's family. So far, DNA testing hasn't resulted in any close cousins, but there are several folks originating from Germany to whom I am related (we just need to figure out how!).
You know, I'm still blown away by the fact that had you guys not shared all of these stories about Bill, I never would have found him. I'll never be able to thank you enough. My eyes are filling with tears again, so I'll sign off for now. I just really want all of you to know how very grateful I am for giving me a place in this world.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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For all your hard work sleuthing, you have earned it Sister!
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Hang in there kid,
It will happen; somewhere down the line with time you will find someone that is connected and knew about your dad. Took some time with my sister now she has about half a dozen that got in contact.
Hope you are felling well as can be. As for me half alive, half dead but still kicking.
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LilaBiene
Trad climber
Technically...the spawning grounds of Yosemite
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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A Trunut just for Younut thanks to a very generous fellow named Ben Mealy who sent me two of a kind, both pristine and Valentine red.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Dec 21, 2013 - 11:46am PT
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Robert and I did a Dolt trade for Christmas, or as we say, Merry Doltmas!
Does anybody have any information about this small Dolt plastic piton logo?
I know of three in existence, all different colors.
I assume these were created sometime in 1970, maybe to add to his product hangtags, or to be used as zipper pulls for his upcoming ideas.
Thanks Robert for the trade, My Christmas is awesome!
Keep up the good research Audrey!
Tonight is our Shaman sweat Lodge ceremony, I will include blessings for you!
Feel the energy!
Happy Holidays everybody! Marty
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LilaBiene
Trad climber
Technically...the spawning grounds of Yosemite
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Dec 22, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
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Thanks, Marty! ")
Hope to be able to procure additional genealogical research in the New Year, and to follow up on about 100 different leads in twice as many directions...nothing like a good puzzle.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 23, 2013 - 01:53am PT
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Dolt advertised gold-plated pitons mounted on Rosewood in Summit Magazine. Was that a joke or did he actually make some? It would probably be to order but has anybody seen one? Remember or have the ads?
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Dec 23, 2013 - 02:04am PT
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Dan,
The answer is early in this thread.
He made them, and Don Lauria had them.
RJ Secor borrowed them but never returned them.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 23, 2013 - 05:48am PT
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Well, Merry Doltmas, RJ.
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Dec 23, 2013 - 09:22am PT
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I had a beautiful Dolt angle-about 3/4 inch, unused. I looked for it years ago, but I never found it. I still have a nice pin and cobra cliffhanger-both unused. Will post pictures when I learn how to use my new camera, bought just a few days ago.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 23, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
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Still searching for an example of the elusive Curly Tailed Cobra Hook!
I hope that yours is one of those but please post up regardless.
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