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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Aug 30, 2008 - 01:41am PT
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Lois: Please stand in front of a mirror and say, slowly and clearly, "President Palin". Say it ten times. Report back.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 30, 2008 - 01:49am PT
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So basically Lois is saying that she was chosen not because she is the best choice but because she is electable. True, but sad.
Alaska has a population of 670,000 people.
Fresno, one of the smaller cities in California has close to 500,000 people in it. That means the mayor of Fresno has as much experience as she does plus he doesn't have advantages that Alaska has in that Alaska funds its government with oil revenues. She has almost no experience at even funding a government without the advantages of oil money.
This choice is obviously about wooing the female vote towards Republicans and has little to do with experience.
One heart beat away folks.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Aug 30, 2008 - 01:54am PT
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LOIS, STFU.
Let's see how she does in the debates.
The woman is a SELF DESCRIBED HOCKEY MOM.
She's a right wing religious nut too.
IS that who you want in the white house?
YOU ARE ABOUT AS SHARP AS A SACK OF WET MICE.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Aug 30, 2008 - 01:59am PT
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"Much sound and fury, signifying little"
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Aug 30, 2008 - 02:00am PT
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Chick's toast and we all know it.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 30, 2008 - 02:05am PT
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Obama worked in Chicago politics which is way tougher then Alaska politics. He is also a senator and is quite smart. Harvard grad.
Palin has been governor of Alaska for 1.5 years. Alaska has a population of 670,000 people. It funds its government with Oil revenues. The mayor of Fresno California (population 500,000 ) has a tougher job and I wouldn't vote for him for VP.
Palin was mayor of a town of 5400 people. Thats not that impressive.
She graduated from the University of Idaho with a degree in Journalism after attending three different colleges. That is not that impressive.
This is all about getting the female vote.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Aug 30, 2008 - 02:10am PT
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Lois, you are an idiot.
A smug idiot, helping to bury yourself along with the rest of us neck deep in pure republican bullsh!t.
You are clueless, just like all the other working stiffs who vote republican.
DID YOU HAPPEN to NOTICE that under Bush salaries have gone DOWN while worker productivity has gone UP quite a bit?
That's a result of the republican philosophy of letting big biz write the laws and have their way.
It works so well, it put us in the great depression once, and it probably will again.
DID YOU KNOW that inequality between the rich and the rest sits right were it was in 1929?
I bet you didn't, and I bet you don't care either.
IDIOT.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Aug 30, 2008 - 02:16am PT
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Lois, before you post another word, I suggest that you read through this thread, from start to finish. If you can't be bothered reading what others have to say, don't bother posting.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Aug 30, 2008 - 02:25am PT
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LEB you stare agape at people who are moved by Barack's or Michelle's speeches and are at the same time magically undisgruntled because a physically attractive woman you know virtually nothing about is named as the GOP VP? Are you truly this vapid?
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 30, 2008 - 02:27am PT
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Lois, All you seem to care about is winning. You don't seem to care if the candidate would make a good president. All you ever talk about is whether they can win.
Too bad. You fail to see the danger.
Yes, America is gullible enough that she could help McCain win. Imagine he wins and one month after taking office he has a stroke. She would be president. Then take a critical look at her experience and her brains. Then imagine Russia or China pulling some stunt. If you are worried about Obama's experience level, then you should be concerned about hers.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 30, 2008 - 02:34am PT
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"Remember winning is not everything. It is the ONLY thing (attribution ? - someone fill me in, please) "
What an ugly belief.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Aug 30, 2008 - 02:40am PT
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MH,,,,stand in front of mirror....too funny ! Moosie I'll try not to take it to hard about my sex, hehehe. It's been a rough day....Weschrist accused me of being nice AND old....and now the beat on the potential vp...
Yowwww ! I am rocking this weekend and fleeing the political scene sheeee.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 30, 2008 - 02:40am PT
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I would rather die then do ANYTHING to win.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Aug 30, 2008 - 02:42am PT
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I didn't realize writing history equated with living reality. If you do good things for people and then I write history saying you did bad things does that mean those people weren't helped? If you do bad things but I say you did good things does that mean you were actually good or will you simply be remembered that way?
I personally would rather do good and be remembered as bad than do bad and be remembered otherwise.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Aug 30, 2008 - 02:43am PT
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Moosie, sounds like any football coach I've ever heard from...
Sometimes you need to motivate ! But not by means of cheating of course. peace and joy.
Lights out ... see ya all manana xoxoxo Lynnie
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 30, 2008 - 02:49am PT
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Lynne,
Football is a lot different then world politics where lives are at stake.
I quit a team that played dirty. I don't care about winning that much to be willing to hurt someone.
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Lost Arrow
Trad climber
The North Ridge of the San Fernando
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Aug 30, 2008 - 03:00am PT
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Lack of Experience with Foreign Affairs is a problem. How do we know this. She found Iraq okay.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 30, 2008 - 03:11am PT
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Lois, I was speaking to Lynne about her comment.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 30, 2008 - 03:18am PT
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My point is still sound Lois, the ends do not justify the means.
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WandaFuca
Gym climber
San Fernando Lamas
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Aug 30, 2008 - 03:20am PT
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Resumes
Barack Obama
Education
Undergraduate Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA Undergraduate, 1981-1983
Columbia University B.A. Political Science with specialization in international relations. Thesis topic: Soviet nuclear disarmament
Graduate
Harvard Law School J.D. magna c#m laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review
Organizing
1983-1988 Director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland on Chicago's South Side.
1992 Led Chicago's Project Vote! push. This effort resulted in a record number of voter registrations, over 600,000 in Chicago.
Teaching
1993-2004 Visiting Law and Government Fellow, then Senior Lecturer, in Constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School.
Law Practice
1993-2002 Worked as an associate attorney with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.
Illinois Senate 1996-2004
chairman, Health and Human Services Committee
United States Senate 2004-present
Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs
Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
Member, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs
Bills / Amendments Passed
S.AMDT.1041 to S.1082 To improve the safety and efficacy of genetic tests.
S.AMDT.3073 to H.R.1585 To provide for transparency and accountability in military and security contracting.
S.AMDT.3078 to H.R.1585 Relating to administrative separations of members of the Armed Forces for personality disorder.
S.AMDT.41 to S.1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
S.AMDT.524 to S.CON.RES.21 To provide $100 million for the Summer Term Education Program supporting summer learning opportunities for low-income students in the early grades to lessen summer learning losses that contribute to the achievement gaps separating low-income students from their middle-class peers.
S.AMDT.599 to S.CON.RES.21 To add $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy.
S.AMDT.905 to S.761 To require the Director of Mathematics, Science, and Engineering Education to establish a program to recruit and provide mentors for women and underrepresented minorities who are interested in careers in mathematics, science, and engineering.
S.AMDT.923 to S.761 To expand the pipeline of individuals entering the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields to support United States innovation and competitiveness.
S.AMDT.924 to S.761 To establish summer term education programs.
S.AMDT.2519 to H.R.2638 To provide that one of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5 million or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee certifies in writing to the agency awarding the contract or grant that the contractor or grantee owes no past due Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.2588 to H.R.976 To provide certain employment protections for family members who are caring for members of the Armed Forces recovering from illnesses and injuries incurred on active duty.
S.AMDT.2658 to H.R.2642 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.2692 to H.R.2764 To require a comprehensive nuclear threat reduction and security plan.
S.AMDT.2799 to H.R.3074 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.3137 to H.R.3222 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.3234 to H.R.3093 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.3331 to H.R.3043 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
Senate Resolutions Passed:
S.RES.133 : A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson.
S.RES.268 : A resolution designating July 12, 2007, as “National Summer Learning Day”.
Other Bills Introduced
S.J.RES.23: A joint resolution clarifying that the use of force against Iran is not authorized by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq, any resolution previously adopted, or any other provision of law.
S. 453: Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act of 2007. The Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act of 2007 (H.R.1281), (S.453), would establish criminal penalties for acts of voter deception. Those who knowingly disseminate false information with the intention of keeping others from voting would face up to five years in prison under the legislation. The Act was sponsored by Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) and 60 cosponsors in the House, and Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and 15 cosponsors in the Senate. (20 Cosponsors)
S. 2030: A bill to amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require reporting relating to bundled contributions made by persons other than registered lobbyists. (1 Cosponsor)
S. 2111: Positive Behavior for Effective Schools Act. A bill to amend the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 to allow State educational agencies, local educational agencies, and schools to increase implementation of early intervention services, particularly school-wide positive behavior supports. (3 Cosponsors)
S. 2066: Back to School: Improving Standards for Nutrition and Physical Education in Schools Act of 2007. A bill to establish nutrition and physical education standards for schools.
S. Con. Res. 46: A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of Sickle Cell Disease Awareness Month
S. 2044: Independent Contractor Proper Classification Act of 2007. A bill to provide procedures for the proper classification of employees and independent contractors, and for other purposes. (6 Cosponsors)
S. 2519: Contracting and Tax Accountability Act of 2007. A bill to prohibit the awarding of a contract or grant in excess of the simplified acquisition threshold unless the prospective contractor or grantee certifies in writing to the agency awarding the contract or grant that the contractor or grantee has no seriously delinquent tax debts, and for other purposes.
S. 2433: Global Poverty Act of 2007. A bill to require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day. (9 Cosponsors)
S. 2330: Veterans Homelessness Prevention Act. A bill to authorize a pilot program within the Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development with the goal of preventing at-risk veterans and veteran families from falling into homelessness, and for other purposes. (1 Cosponsor)
Sarah Palin
EXPERIENCE: Alaska governor since December 2006; unsuccessful run for Republican nomination for lieutenant governor in 2002; chairwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, 2003-2004; served two terms as Wasilla mayor and two terms on city council.
EDUCATION: Graduated University of Idaho, 1987, journalism.
FAMILY: Husband, Todd; five children.
BUSINESS: Worked as sports reporter for two Anchorage television stations; owned with her husband a snowmobile, watercraft, ATV business from 1994-97. Husband is a North Slope oil field worker.
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