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karabin museum

Trad climber
phoenix, az
Jul 23, 2015 - 09:09pm PT
Not sure who made the cams but the closest thing I could find was a Stregor cam from the Ukraine. The Stregor has the same flat head screw and washer, the same stem end for the carabiner and the same stem end where it attaches to the axle. Also the cam lobe tips angle downward (large cams). Maybe those cams are early Stregor?

nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Jul 24, 2015 - 12:36am PT
Thank you Marty! You may probably be right.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jul 24, 2015 - 04:21am PT
Amazing, there was a strong contingent of Checz (ukraine ?) climbers in the Gunks in the '80s.
They had an older mentor, who had a small home at the base of the route 44/55, the main road that ran past the Trapps, the main climbing area of the Mohonk preserve.
His name was Jon Burr. He made yearly trips back to Eastern Europe...and came home with as well as inspired communist block climbers, Goodies, like that.
One at least became a Mohnk Ranger, and I think still is. His name is Frank Tach.(?)
The poster 'Happie girl' is a seasonal ranger and may be able to put you in touch.
Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Jul 30, 2015 - 01:40pm PT
I've never seen one of these: Saw it on Ebay today.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Lot-of-Rock-Climbing-Gear-Hexs-Stoppers-and-Misc-Webbing-/231632299412?hash=item35ee5c6594

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jul 30, 2015 - 06:36pm PT
That looks like a poor attempt at a stackable made from one or possibly two large Stoppers and not likely to be anything beyond that by my eye.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Jul 31, 2015 - 01:09am PT
Steve, I would not say that it is such a poor attempt. I am far from being an engineer but, as a modest collector, I find this nut rather interesting and beautiful.
Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Jul 31, 2015 - 07:05am PT
I am an engineer and I think it is interesting and probably works - as well as stackable nuts do. I won't bid on it but I'd like to try it.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Jul 31, 2015 - 07:37am PT
I can't bid on it but I'd love to have it…
I am not an engineer but… when looking closely at the device, it seems to me that there should be more friction on the two nuts against each rock face than on the nuts against each other; so it might work. Anyway, thank you Banquo for posting it here.
Gunks Jesse

Trad climber
Shawangunk, NY
Aug 25, 2015 - 06:49pm PT
Not a mystery who made it to me: obviously a Forrest piece, size 2. But what was it called...

Also, got a couple SMC camlock nuts. Anybody ever used them? They look pretty cool and am debating on selling them off or adding them to my rack for the Gunks.. Advice?
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Aug 25, 2015 - 06:56pm PT
Forrest Arrowhead...
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Aug 25, 2015 - 07:15pm PT
SMC Camlock, sort of semi-useless for camming, ok as a nut if it fit something.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Aug 26, 2015 - 03:24am PT
I have just received most interesting information from our friend Ashby Robertson (Vertical Archaeology) regarding the mysterious cams sold on eBay a few weeks ago. Mystery solved…?
I saw a post you put on Supertopo about some unmarked cams. I had a climbing partner in Seoul, Korea in 1990 who had a set exactly like that. Completely unmarked, random plastic or light metal trigger (both bent!), and really stiff trigger action. They seemed to be early flex-friends copies and overall the construction wasn't too bad. The cable stem was floppy and inconsistent on the small sizes and almost ridged on the big size. I think we only had 5 units though... I don't have any pictures of that stuff but I remember it very well.
I think they were Czechoslovakian. My partner who owned them picked them up while stationed in Germany with the US Army. Sometimes you could find weird things for sale cheap if visiting climbers were trying to turn gear into money for their trip home.
I'm not sure all of these were of the origin I just outlined. The two middle sized units look a little different.
Roots

Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
Sep 30, 2015 - 08:13am PT
Here's a couple of small pitons that came from Ed Cooper's kit. Anyone know what we have here:






bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
Sep 30, 2015 - 09:21am PT
^^^^^^^
Look like someone's version of a RURP.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Oct 1, 2015 - 12:20am PT
It seems to be plectrums for heavy metal rock guitar player...;-)
Roots

Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
Oct 2, 2015 - 08:12am PT
^Ha! So true!

Here's a comparison picture of what I believe to be a DOLT Thin Bit. Prior to obtaining the one shown from Ed, it was the smallest piton I had ever seen...

Gunks Ray

Trad climber
Gunks
Oct 2, 2015 - 10:41am PT

Also, got a couple SMC camlock nuts. Anybody ever used them? They look pretty cool and am debating on selling them off or adding them to my rack for the Gunks.. Advice?


SMC camlock. Keep or sell?
SMC camlock. Keep or sell?
Credit: Gunks Jesse

I used an SMC Camlock like in your photo to protect the first crux move into the overhangs on the first attempts of Suppers Ready in the Gunks, it was a key piece, nobody had anything else that would work in the small horizontal. This was back in 84 so it was before all the small cams came out. I'm pretty sure it was still on the route and used by Jim D on the first ascent.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Oct 2, 2015 - 04:26pm PT
You need more of those SMC cam locks.










I'll sell you my old set.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Oct 2, 2015 - 04:47pm PT
Gunks Ray ?!?
There can be only one!
Just this week I jawed at Frank Minuni!
Now you ?
It must be. . '
83 ?
Suppers Ready?
SMC Wired Cam locks,!!? (in opposition they would stay )

You almost never post
Is that a way to be cool in the Gunks thing,
' always knew you to be above most of that.
Glad to hear tell of you ! How is Hay?




Over on the project they are in need of
A history lesson about weschester climbing
They think that they are the first at Byram Lake Rd
The big #s cliff at Armonk! You were there before me or Al I think?
(I know you got tic bit & Lymes)was that also 83?
Roots

Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
Oct 6, 2015 - 08:44am PT
Speaking of RURPS; how about these - any idea who made them?

Ed Cooper said he used them on the FA of NE Face of Mt. Baring 7/1960:

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