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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 21, 2007 - 12:33am PT
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The wind was knock out of me about 125 post ago. Good job boys!
We could have learn something here...instead we got sh#t on.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 21, 2007 - 12:36am PT
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Who's Deborah?
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Jul 21, 2007 - 12:37am PT
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we'll get it back on track Bob - send bvb an email and tell him to get his ass in gear and send me that mag :)
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 21, 2007 - 12:49am PT
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Oli asked this question earlier: ". But then someone comes and slashes the canvas with a knife. Should that slash be part of the final work?"
Interesting question Pat.
Here you just skip over the slasher and ignore. You come back and post again like the slasher never even existed.
Sometimes they get upset when they are ignored and go on some psycho rampage where they fill the whole front page with sh'it.
We have seen this madness many times. Hahahaha
Yeah it's kind of funny and stupid at the same time.
But if one takes themselves too seriously here you will become upset over this. Better just to let them get it out of their system just like a cloud burst doesn't last too long.
Then nice sun comes and rainbow makes Oli smile .....
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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Jul 21, 2007 - 03:17am PT
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"I want to suck a dog's purple boner." lol! but OT!
I'm more of a cat person. ;-) (BTW, I LOLed too...That's why I like the occasional boner post.)
Thanks for your post, Oli. (Not just the funny part.)
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Jul 21, 2007 - 08:49am PT
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Back on thread...
Yesterday I had the pleasure of watching my good friend 70 year old Jorge Urioste climb the bastille with his 16 year old son. Today I turn 50. Now if that is not living history what is?
Hope you all have a great day! phil broscovak.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jul 21, 2007 - 09:54am PT
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Happy Birthday,
You're history dude!
and
yur gonna die!
Someday
;-)
Karl
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Jul 21, 2007 - 12:10pm PT
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Happy 50 Phil!
I met the Uriosites back in 1980.
Very nice folk.
Dan Michael & I were staying at Grandstaff's place in Las Vegas, where Largo & Lynn Hill were also living and we'd go and try to figure out what was going on back in those Red Rock canyons. At the time, George had fixed lines part way up "Levitation 29" and the route was about half completed. He and his wife had set up a nice low impact camp site at the base and they treated Dan & I to a cup of tea before we headed up on Eagle Dance. Very civil; really nice people those two.
There was a bit of symbiosis between the Old & Young guard. George & Joanne were the locals, as was Grandstaff of course, and the Uriosites were given to siege & bolt tactics, which may have seemed a little outdated to us, but they really love their climbing and they are so nice that little of the typical conflict arose. In fact, Largo realized that he could live & let live, then just go up with Lynn and free the bolt ladders. Sort of pre dated sport climbing, by default. George's wife Joanne would often follow George's aid leads free as well. The whole thing was an interesting cooperative effort. Uriosites would get the first ascent, John & Lynn would get the free and the rest of us would try to lure more info out of Grandstaff about what he'd done. Randy was very accomodating with his house, yet very protective of his route information. By contrast, the Uriosites were entirely open about their exploits. Interesting times. Good times.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Jul 21, 2007 - 12:33pm PT
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You know all this talk about old, history, and dead or living fossils . . . hey, I collect fossils.
Don't fret, many of you are very valuable in the fossil/mineral collecting world. Something to be proud of.
Just checking in. Hope everyone's summer is happening.
Klimmer
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 21, 2007 - 06:30pm PT
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Phil...sorry about not making to your 50 year bash. Hope you had a good one and is way great seeing you last nite.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Jul 22, 2007 - 10:32am PT
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The FIVE-0-IN ELDO was a Blast! We started to calculate the number of collective years climbing experience. I lost count at 420 but I am fairly sure we easily topped 500. The average number of years experience was 28. Jorge really threw off the bell curve having started out 52 years ago in hob nail boots. Truly remarkable! I felt incredibly honored by everyone just being there. The ranger actually presented me with a piece of Ivy Baldwin's high wire. Blew me away! What a treasure of history.
BobbyD you were missed but not dissed. Sorry you couldn't make it but it really was great running into you Friday. Thanx to all for a super send off to the 2nd half of a century. And Bob thanx for this thread.
Live On History!
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seamus mcshane
climber
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Jul 22, 2007 - 05:07pm PT
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weschrist is superghey!
last post is proof.
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Oli
Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Jul 22, 2007 - 06:55pm PT
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That was obviously a poem you wrote, Wes, as it perfectly reflects your ungenerous view of life. Nor would that poem be as good as the worst poem in a 7th grade poetry class. Your writing is as bad as your thinking. Your ideas are as weak as your reasoning intelligence, if I should be so kind as to grace what goes on up there in your mind as "reasoning" or "intelligence."
Before you criticize people, really you should be somewhere at or near their ability, or at least from a far distance making small steps to approach it, you know, if you want to have any sort of credibility. It's like a beginning writer tearing Howard Nemerov apart, or some aspiring 6th grade writer ripping Yeats, people whose minds were like galaxies, infinitely huge and blessed, compared to a mind about like the inside of a TV dinner. Yes everyone loses their edge. It's the way of the world. Name someone who doesn't. That's the easiest observation anyone could ever make, and the most worthless observation also. But they sharpen other edges, of which you are not aware. I really would challenge you to try to be a better person. You might actually have something valid to say one day, something that would matter, something that would reflect integrity or honesty, those qualities you don't seem to want to experience at this moment in your "life." We all tend to be jerks when we're young, but you can turn that around if you could find the desire. Or you can stay where you are, spewing your negative, thoughtless time-wastes in all directions, in a pathetic attempt to seem "tough" or to cut down your mental superiors of whom you seem so very resentful and jealous.
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seamus mcshane
climber
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Jul 22, 2007 - 07:26pm PT
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"I get inspiration from history. I probably respect it more than some people, but I've gotten so much from the past that to spit in its face just MAKES NO SENSE. You get a lot from it and so you take that into account. You don't just take the good parts of it and forget about the parts that MIGHT hold you back. And I don't think of history as holding me back in any way..."
"Young climbers see the "now" as all important- the ultimate statement. But how can you look at anything in isolation? No matter what you're looking at- climbing, nature, politics, relationships- nothing can be looked at in isolation. It doesn't mean anything in isolation."
Peter Croft 1992
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jul 22, 2007 - 07:37pm PT
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actually pat, wes wishes he wrote that. it's actually from a pretty amazing hip-hop track and if you understand wes's POV, it is germaine to whatever obscure point he is trying to make here.
check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzuFeXYbOOo
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jul 22, 2007 - 07:48pm PT
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lost it. years ago. never getting it back.
he's losing his edge....
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 23, 2007 - 02:51am PT
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Kevin wrote: wes, christ, you're losin it.
No...maybe he is Tupac???
Wes...whatever point you are trying to make its obvious that you just aren't good enough to get it across.
Hard to believe that Peter Croft and Wes are both from the same species.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Jul 23, 2007 - 08:45am PT
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JeeSuz KeyRiced Wessie what crawled up your poop tube and died?
What ever it was it is festering like a cancer. Either that or you have had an Operectomy. Thats the surgical procedure that connects your optic nerve to your as#@&%e and gives you a shitty outlook on life. Your a nasty little punk ass piss ant. Do you always have to take a steamer on everyone else's parade? Are you trying in desperation to pump up your already bloated sense of worth. Or does your bogus "born again" religiosity give you all the sense of superiority you are sure you deserve. Take some advice and take a hike or go take a steamer on your own crash pad. However if you ever want to learn to be a real climber (after you sprout pubic hair and move out of mommie's house that is) Then post up. We edge losin' old farts are pretty nice, forgiving and understanding folks.
Oh and don't have your Alter (heshe) ego Raimit post up to tell me I hurt your feelings and you are such a good boy we should all make nicey nice with you. Since as things stand now I just wiped more valuable bio-mass than you off my O-ring.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Jul 23, 2007 - 09:06am PT
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Wes could easily have taken his own advice and just skipped over the posts that displeased him. But the issue really was, this thread had drifted back to being not about Wes. For his entertainment, he made a post to correct that.
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 23, 2007 - 11:32am PT
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Actually
If you really look hard you will see that weschrist is a mirror.
Everything you respond to it reflects back at your own self.
It's not that weschrist is blowing it, the responders are blowing it.
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