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Jon Beck

Trad climber

Oceanside

Nov 12, 2018 - 09:34pm PT

Trump being "strong on trade" is going to reap some rewards 2020. Question is, who will be the beneficiary?

www.agweb.com

The U.S. Department of Agriculture says farmers are expected to harvest the largest soybean crop on record, but they have to deal with a constricted market in which to sell their crop because of the administration's tariff battle with China. In its latest update, the USDA expected soybean harvest to tally 4.6 billion bushels. That's the largest ever!

Illinois leads soybean production with 688 million bushels, and Iowa is second. Selling soybeans to China has nearly halted with the tariff dispute resulting in a growing stockpiles and the lowest prices for farmers in more than a decade. Corn production is estimated at 14.6 billion bushels-the second largest crop on record.

Jim Clipper

climber

Nov 12, 2018 - 09:36pm PT

Fritz,

Try this... Lie down and look up at the sky. I'll do the same. In CA my view may be a bit more obscured, we're trying to reduce the emissions though. Same sky right?

If Lituya goes to unzip your jacket, don't freak! Ok,... do it!!!

Also, Fritz, apologies for any inappropriate cultural appropriation (i thought the panthers picture was pretty good though).

edit:

Civil authorities have a history of alarmingly frequent incivility. So, yes, you are basically right.

I really hope that the US may regain some standing in the world. Maybe ironically, if we had more in the past, there certainly was incivility. Still, some shined above it.

Fritz

Social climber

Choss Creek, ID

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2018 - 09:43pm PT

Jim Clipper! Thank you for your moderate stance.

You like stories? I've posted a lot of climbing, gear history, & general interest stories on ST.

Links to Fritz ST posts----”

Lituya & his ilk post nothing but right wing political cartoons & schist stories, & I won't take it anymore, without responding.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Nov 12, 2018 - 09:57pm PT

Sinema wins Arizona Senate race
The Democrat pulled out a come-from-behind victory to flip a formerly Republican seat.
By JAMES ARKIN 11/12/2018 04:42 PM EST Updated 11/12/2018 09:06 PM EST
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/12/2018-arizona-senate-election-sinema-mcsally-984928

Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema has defeated Republican Rep. Martha McSally in the battle for the open Senate seat in Arizona, giving Democrats their second Senate pickup of the cycle.

Sinema had 49.7 percent of the vote to McSally’s 48 percent when The Associated Press called the race Monday evening. Though McSally led narrowly on Election Night, Sinema took the lead in the race two days later and continued to pad her edge as the state counted outstanding votes through the weekend and Monday.

First Democrat Senator in AZ in 30 years!

And waaaaaaaay better looking than any of the other old white guys in the Chamber....

Lituya

Mountain climber

Nov 12, 2018 - 09:58pm PT

Lituya & his ilk post nothing but right wing political cartoons & schist stories, & I won't take it anymore, without responding.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Nov 12, 2018 - 10:09pm PT

Whatever happened to John Eleazarian? He's always been one of the most articulate conservative voices here who also has a very respectable climbing history.

Lituya

Mountain climber

Nov 12, 2018 - 10:09pm PT

Ok, just this once. So Fritz doesn't go crazy with that wheel gun.

Fritz

Social climber

Choss Creek, ID

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2018 - 10:14pm PT

Mighty Hiker! Thank you.

Lituya & his ilk have nothing but bile to add to this forum.

The pistol waving photo of me that apparently means something to Cosmic & Lituya, was part of a trip report I posted this summer. They choose to post it out of contex in a vain attempt to mock me.

The Delights of Delano on the 1st day of Summer. 2018
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=3099204&msg=3099702#msg3099702

Lituya? Where did you find that climbing photo? If you have something in you besides right-wing bile, it shows up darn rarely on ST.

Jim Clipper

climber

Nov 12, 2018 - 10:24pm PT

o.k. i'm done, a legend in my own mind... peace all, i'll sing myself away.

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id be lucky to share a rope with either of you guys. fwiw: i wore an access fund t-shirt to see johnny clegg. too young to catch sipho or andy at their peak. i scribbled ed feb. on it. u? if i've been mistaken, it wouldn't surprise me. finally, thanks for the content, im not in the bush league...

Lituya

Mountain climber

Nov 12, 2018 - 10:25pm PT

If you have something in you besides right-wing bile, it shows up darn rarely on ST.

Sorry, Herr Fritz, but aren't you the one initiating a seemingly endless stream of political complaint threads? (When you're not bragging about your financial acumen or your latest globe trot, I mean.)

Your ST history reads more like the back of a Prius than a trip report. Still, I like you in a weird sort of way. Too bad for all that Idaho anger and crazy. Seriously though, take a gun safety course. Under no circumstances should a firearm be handled like that.

10b4me

Social climber

Lida Junction

Nov 12, 2018 - 10:26pm PT

First Democrat Senator in AZ in 30 years!

Great news.
So trump takes three trips to Montana to try and defeat Jon Tester-Tester won
trump campaigns in Nevada for Dean Heller- Heller lost
trump campaigns in Arizona for McSally- McSally lost

so much winning.

Jim Clipper

climber

Nov 12, 2018 - 10:29pm PT

ok im back... hope this works out. really. peace

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Lituya

Mountain climber

Nov 12, 2018 - 10:37pm PT

Jim, the wife and I went to "Aussie Floyd" last month. They put on a really good show if they're ever in your neighborhood..

Jim Clipper

climber

Nov 12, 2018 - 10:44pm PT

Sincerely, glad to hear you're traveling. We all should do some more. Maybe not the dream trip of youth, but a trip with the "better half", those truly in kind, may actually get you to highest places.

dirtbag

climber

Nov 13, 2018 - 07:17am PT

Good: cnn/ Acosta are suing trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/cnn-sues-white-house-to-regain-access-for-reporter-jim-acosta/2018/11/13/afc3423c-e6bf-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html?utm_term=.08e81273d6b0

Jim Clipper

climber

Nov 13, 2018 - 07:34am PT

Apogee, it would be presumptuous to think I could do it on my own...

However, if I ever contributed to pissing off John E., and his leaving, I need to find a better use of my time. (I remember being pushy). There is a lot of unique experience here. It should persist through the inevitable back and forth.

Being presumptuous warning. I don't have the cred.

“It is better to die for an idea that will live, than to live for an idea that will die”

WBraun

climber

Nov 13, 2018 - 07:38am PT

“It is better to die for an idea that will live, than to live for an idea that will die”

Most gross materialists ideas are ridiculously st00pid and they die for those st00pid ideas ......

Marlow

Sport climber

OSLO

Nov 13, 2018 - 07:53am PT

The death of another journalist. Trump backed the explanation from the Saudi regime. Everything is now pointing back to the Saudi regime as expected:

Audio evidence related to the killing of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi contains appalling details of the crime, the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, has said, as he continues to pile pressure on the Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman.

Erdoğan’s latest intervention came as the New York Times reported that a member of the Saudi hit team dispatched to Istanbul to kill Khashoggi told one of his superiors by phone to “tell your boss” the operation was accomplished, an apparent reference to Prince Mohammed, and a Turkish newspaper published x-ray images of the team’s luggage, which included defibrillators and syringes.

The audio recordings shocked a Saudi intelligence official, Erdoğan told reporters on his return to Ankara on Monday night from first world war commemorations in France, where he said the killing was discussed with his US, French and German counterparts.

“We played the recordings regarding this murder to everyone who wanted them from us. Our intelligence organisation did not hide anything. We played them to all who wanted them including the Saudis, the USA, France, Canada, Germany, Britain,” he said. “The recordings are really appalling. Indeed, when the Saudi intelligence officer listened to the recordings he was so shocked he said: ‘This one must have taken heroin, only someone who takes heroin would do this’.”

How's the Trump family business and their associates doing?

Jim Clipper

climber

Nov 13, 2018 - 07:58am PT

Most gross materialists ideas are ridiculously st00pid and they die for those st00pid ideas ......

Agreed. Most. Having only read an interview, the person previously quoted was truly exceptional, eloquent, and had a strength I will never know. Maybe because of those like him.

You may like this one:

The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.

p.s. going to the mountains. maybe catch you all there

p.p.s. poignant post about journalists. in the final tally, some too have been exceptional.

Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber

Nov 13, 2018 - 08:30am PT

News says Mueller is expected to drop some indictments today. It's almost need EST....my bet for timing is 4pm.

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