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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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You're getting worked up and advocating for a media, lobbyist , and professional political system that is entirely corrupted
Unlike you? In what way?
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Well, the Potholes Crack at Stoney Point has been bolted. Shameful.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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anyone besides me already tired of seeing Trump's mug on tv?
(and it's only august!!)
Russ, can I borrow your Picard image there for use very soon on another thread?
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Coach37
Social climber
Philly
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A picture's worth a thousand
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Norton
Social climber
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anyone besides me already tired of seeing Trump's mug on tv?
Fructose, I change the TV channel as soon as I see his face or hear his voice
been watching the golf channel a lot lately.....
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zBrown
Ice climber
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No lips in the spoundtrack.
Were the Stones on the show that night?
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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"I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream. That's my nightmare: crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor and surviving"
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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What time on the video clip does Prior say "Honky lips"???...
Yeah, it's different than I remembered. Could've sworn it was after "honky honky". Oh well, still funny.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Holy Crap...
The (remaining) rats are jumping off the ship...or eating each other...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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As a proud polititard (I prefer this spelling, thank you), I'm happy to have an intelligent discussion about politics with anyone who can do so intelligently.
Have you seen how many people supported Trump? That pretty much tells you why it's so hard to have an intelligent discussion about politics anywhere...online, or in person.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Vote for Trump, Riley. Have fun with that.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Radical ...Don't blame Hillary...Blame the judge...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Yeah, I do believe that.
Because every person I've run into who is supporting Trump is either a f*#king idiot, or they are voting for him because they have Fox News programmed Hillary Hate, and much to their embarrassment, they have to vote for Trump because they let a bunch of f*#king idiots pushed him forward as their only GOP choice.
If the GOP dies as a result of this debacle (and I doubt it), they f*#king deserve it, Riley.
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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I think we have to resurrect the theory that The Donald is a Democrat Manchurian candidate - likely financed through laundered monies from the Clintons - and will continue his meteoric fireball all the way into the dirt so that there will be no time for the repubs to mount a viable candidate to prevent Hillary to take the prize.
I mean, who in their right mind would behave the way he does if he was at all serious about winning? (Ok, maybe Charlie Sheen- but he wasn't running for pres, and he was definitely whacked on Tiger's Milk).
Edit: re: Clinton rapist meme above^^
Not even close. Here's the real scoop. I know it goes against your deep desire to hate Hillary; sorry
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Riley post is bullsh#t, she didn't volunteer, she was appointed. She didn't laugh at the rape victim.
From Fact check:
Q: Did Hillary Clinton volunteer in 1975 to defend a rapist, who was found not guilty, and laugh about it in an interview in 1980?
A: Clinton defended an accused rapist, but she did not volunteer. He pleaded guilty to a lesser offense. She laughed when recalling unusual aspects of the case.
FULL QUESTION
Did Hillary Clinton volunteer to defend a child rapist in 1975, accuse the 12-year-old victim of fantasizing about older men, later state that she knew he was guilty but got the charges dropped and laugh?
FULL ANSWER
In 1975, Hillary Clinton — then known as Hillary Rodham — taught at the University of Arkansas School of Law, where she founded the University of Arkansas School Legal Aid Clinic. It was during this time that she defended Thomas Alfred Taylor, a 41-year-old man accused of raping a 12-year-old girl.
In her book “Living History,” Clinton recalls that Mahlon Gibson, a Washington County prosecutor, told her that the accused rapist “wanted a woman lawyer” to defend him, and that Gibson had recommended Clinton to Judge Maupin Cummings. “I told Mahlon I really didn’t feel comfortable taking on such a client, but Mahlon gently reminded me that I couldn’t very well refuse the judge’s request.”
Gibson corroborated Clinton’s story in a 2014 interview with CNN.
CNN, June 25, 2014: Gibson said Clinton called him shortly after the judge assigned her to the case and said, “I don’t want to represent this guy. I just can’t stand this. I don’t want to get involved. Can you get me off?”
“I told her, ‘Well contact the judge and see what he says about it,’ but I also said don’t jump on him and make him mad,” Gibson said. “She contacted the judge and the judge didn’t remove her and she stayed on the case.”
In a separate 2014 interview, Clinton said she had an “obligation” to represent Taylor. “I had a professional duty to represent my client to the best of my ability, which I did,” she said.
In her book, Clinton writes that she visited Taylor in the county jail and he “denied the charges against him and insisted that the girl, a distant relative, had made up her story.” Clinton filed a motion to order the 12-year-old girl to get a psychiatric examination. “I have been informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and engage in fantasizing … [and] that she has in the past made false accusations about persons, claiming they had attacked her body,” according to an affidavit filed by Clinton in support of her motion.
Clinton also cited an expert in child psychology who said that “children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences and that adolescents with disorganized families, such as the complainant’s, are even more prone to such behavior,” Clinton wrote in her affidavit.
Ultimately, expert testimony from a scientist “cast doubt on the evidentiary value of the blood and semen the prosecutor claimed proved the defendant’s guilt in the rape,” Clinton writes in her book. Clinton negotiated a plea deal and Taylor was charged with “Unlawful Fondling of a Child Under the Age of Fourteen” and was sentenced to one year in a county jail and four years of probation, according to a final judgment signed by Cummings.
In 2014, the Washington Free Beacon published the audio of an interview that Arkansas reporter Roy Reed conducted with Clinton in the 1980s. In the interview, Clinton recalls some unusual details of the rape case, and she can be heard laughing in three instances, beginning with a joke she makes about the accuracy of polygraphs.
Clinton: Of course he claimed he didn’t. All this stuff. He took a lie detector test. I had him take a polygraph, which he passed, which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs. [laughs]
At another point, Clinton said the prosecutor balked at turning over evidence, forcing her to go to the judge to obtain it.
Clinton: So I got an order to see the evidence and the prosecutor didn’t want me to see the evidence. I had to go to Maupin Cummings and convince Maupin that yes indeed I had a right to see the evidence [laughs] before it was presented.
Clinton then said that the evidence she obtained was a pair of the accused’s underwear with a hole in it. Clinton told Reed that investigators had cut out a piece of the underwear and sent the sample to a crime lab to be tested, and the only evidence that remained was the underwear with a hole in it.
Clinton took the remaining evidence to a forensic expert in Brooklyn, New York, and the expert told her that the material on the underwear wasn’t enough to test. “He said, you know, ‘You can’t prove anything,'” Clinton recalled the expert telling her.
Clinton: I wrote all that stuff and I handed it to Mahlon Gibson, and I said, “Well this guy’s ready to come up from New York to prevent this miscarriage of justice.” [laughs]
The emails we have received about this case contain some misinformation. Some have claimed, for example, that Clinton volunteered for the case and the accused rapist was found not guilty. That’s not accurate, as we just explained. But Clinton did laugh in the retelling of some unusual aspects of the rape case, and we leave it to others to decide whether her laughter was appropriate or not.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Riley lied...? oops...
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JC Marin
Trad climber
CA
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^^^Or maybe Trump is as insane as he appears to be
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