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pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:04am PT

Perhaps Norton has got it right, again.

Why not have someone who fundamentally understands business making the decisions, again.

I say "Give Trump a Chance!"

not yet given the past data or events with the banks the wall street SILICON VALLEY is the most likely to become president..

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:06am PT

Eisenhower was a liberal!
Google his Election Platform, it's very similar to Bernie Sanders
Support of Unions, high taxes, free education, emphasis on building our infrastructure

The Republicans were a liberal party for a time

Look at this 1952 Election Map

The Racists just switched parites when they were fed the raw meat of racism by Nixon and the New Republicans

and yes, Trump is a Fascist.

Ken M

Mountain climber

Los Angeles, Ca

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:07am PT

I'm also quite surprised at the outfall over Boehner:

Saint Ronald Reagan's perhaps biggest contribution to politics was what some have called the "11th Commandment":

"Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican"

But what are we seeing:

-gracious praise from democrats who fought him tooth and nail

-blistering attacks upon him by fellow republicans.

This seems to me to be a very significant shift in Repug behavior, among which signals throwing the ideals of Reagan overboard.

(God knows Reagan would now be viewed as a RINO, and vilified BY HIS PARTY. I think if he were in the thick of it today, he would still be revered)

two-shoes

Trad climber

Auberry, CA

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:08am PT

Craig Knows his history.

The Chief

climber

Down the hill & across the Valley from......

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:12am PT

Chief, you strike me as having remarkably balanced political views on a number of issues. Why in the hell would you fall for the GOP-droid narrative that the primary drain on the economy is entitlements?

Has NOTHING to do with draining anything. Has to do with the growing mentality and how the entire GOV'T system is so fked up, regardless the party/ideology.

Total IGNORANCE, UNGRATEFULNESS and HYPOCRISY prevails across the board in this nation solely based on one's political/ideological views. If you can not see it just on this thread alone.

Pretty sure the likes of BOBda/Fry etal are the kind that when a group hoodlums break into their house in the middle of night, they will do absolutely nothing and let them thugs do as they wish. Then of course they'll dial 911 and when the fked up cops they disdains so much, do not show up for a couple of hours because of the restrictions that have been imposed on their asses due to the whining of the likes of them, they of course will then immediately file a lawsuit against the city or county for their lack of police response/action.

...go figure.

Oh the ironeeeeeeeeeee........

EDIT:

Barry "Two Shoes"

Amazing how you and so many others here conveniently forget what these two DEMS started and increased.

More DEAD YOUNG AMERICANS and Civilians, dropped bombs, defoiliant etc etc etc than both Bushes combined and then a buttload some....

V I E T N A M W A R S T A T I S T I C S

Wounded: 303,704

Severely disabled: 75,000-----23,214 100% Disabled; 5,283 Lost limb; 1,081 Sustained multiple amputations.

Amputation or crippling wounds to the lower extremities were 300% higher than in WW II and 70% higher than Korea. Multiple amputations occurred at the rate of 18.4% compared to 5.7% in WW II.

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:14am PT

WHY THE F*#K do you have to draw me into your rants
you have 100s of posts that use my name as an insult

F*#ken LEAVE ME out of your posts, please.........

Oh the irony is that you are a f-ing loon fixated on bullying and creating division, anger and promoting hate.

You don't know anything about politics other than BS of "they're all the same", which is pure BS.
It's bee proven BS, and who cares about what happened to the Dems 50 years ago, times have changed

Never use my name in one of your posts again

DO YOU HEAR ME.

VVV
yes, I said F*#k off

The Chief

climber

Down the hill & across the Valley from......

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:19am PT

Craig Fry = HUH... Did you say something.... Churp.

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:14am PT

Oh the irony is that I am a f-ing loon fixated on bullying and creating division, anger and promoting hate

FIFY... fry!

Bob D'A

Trad climber

Taos, NM

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 28, 2015 - 11:20am PT

"Pretty sure the likes of BOBda/Fry etal are the kind that when a group hoodlums break into their house in the middle of night, they will do absolutely nothing and let them thugs do as they wish. Then of course they'll dial 911 and when the fked up cops they disdains so much, do not show up for a couple of hours because of the restrictions that have been imposed on their asses due to the whining of the likes of them, they of course will then immediately file a lawsuit against the city or county for their lack of police response/action."

Yes that is exactly what I would do. This coming from a recovering drunk who spend his 20's-30's in a drunken stupor who had the military to protect his ass from any consequences.

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:22am PT

He makes up total lies about us
Why?

He has no idea about what I would do, or who I am.

what kind of person would make up some lie, and then spew it to the world?

a sick one

The Chief

climber

Down the hill & across the Valley from......

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:22am PT

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM

Yes that is exactly what I would do. This coming from a recovering drunk who spend his 20's-30's in a drunken stupor.

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:22am PT
He makes up total lies about us
Why?

what kind of person would make up some lie, and spew it to the world?

a sick one

EDIT

So BOBda... are now going to tell us that you actually own weapons and ammo???

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:24am PT

This is how every debate with the Chief goes

Down the tube with in your face lies, misinformation, insults, attacks

and zero substance on the Topic being debated

and he hates politics!!

I say stay away from it, you don't know sh#t about it and you are an embarrassment to yourself.

The Chief

climber

Down the hill & across the Valley from......

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:26am PT

Hey FRY & BOBda etal...

V I E T N A M W A R S T A T I S T I C S

Killed: 58,220

Wounded: 303,704

Severely disabled: 75,000-----23,214 100% Disabled; 5,283 Lost limb; 1,081 Sustained multiple amputations.

Amputation or crippling wounds to the lower extremities were 300% higher than in WW II and 70% higher than Korea. Multiple amputations occurred at the rate of 18.4% compared to 5.7% in WW II.

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:26am PT

Amputation or crippling wounds to the lower extremities were 300% higher than in WW II and 70% higher than Korea. Multiple amputations occurred at the rate of 18.4% compared to 5.7% in WW II.

This in no way, of course, forgives George W, Cheney and Rumsfeld for their stupid adventure, right?

Stupid, debilitating, monstrously expensive wrong wars know no bounds.

If the system is broken on both sides, as you say, then why do you pound so hard for the right wing?

The Chief

climber

Down the hill & across the Valley from......

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:28am PT

If the system is broken on both sides, as you say, then why do you pound so hard for the right wing?

PLEASE do show me where I once SPECIFICALLY stated anything of the sort, Bruce.

Assume and presume..... Go figure.

Bob D'A

Trad climber

Taos, NM

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 28, 2015 - 11:29am PT

Chief wrote: So BOBda... are now going to tell us that you actually own weapons and ammo???

What does that have do with anything???

Thanks for posting just how the f*#k up the military is and how f*#king naive some people were when they enlisted Chief.

You enlisted Chief and now you whine like a little baby.

So of us were smart enough not to go in.

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:30am PT

PLEASE do show me where I once SPECIFICALLY stated anything of the sort, Bruce.

Wow. I shall do no such thing.

Your thousands of posts against the left speak for themselves.

The Chief

climber

Down the hill & across the Valley from......

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:36am PT

Your thousands of posts against the left speak for themselves.

Like I said Bruce... assume and presume.

You conveniently forget that I voted for OBAMA... TWICE!

.................WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!!!...............

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 28, 2015 - 11:29am PT
Chief wrote: So BOBda... are now going to tell us that you actually own weapons and ammo???

What does that have do with anything???

Thanks for posting just how the f*#k up the military is and how f*#king naive some people were when they enlisted Chief.

You enlisted Chief and now you whine like a little baby.

So of us were smart enough not to go in.

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:37am PT

Here’s the reality: In the past, politicians could afford to tell their constituents one thing and do something else entirely in office. The rapid advance of technology, however, has made that far more costly. Politicians and lobbyists no longer hold a monopoly on information. In fact, the ability of constituents all across the country to connect with one another and disseminate information means they can be more informed on both policy and process than some lawmakers.

In other words, the balance of power is starting to shift. The challenge for the Washington establishment—in which Speaker Boehner was firmly entrenched—is how to adapt to such a radical and empowering change in the political landscape. In the long run, the last year of turmoil in the GOP will prove to have been immensely positive. You had a Speaker who decided he was going to ignore the decentralizing influence of digital communication and try to govern with an iron fist ignoring the will of his voters. And that model has proven to be a complete failure.

Speaker Boehner’s decision to step down empowers rank-and-file lawmakers to embrace the conservative grassroots and increases the likelihood the party will actually fight for conservative policy priorities and our Constitution. But that will not happen through inertia. It will take the concerted effort of lawmakers, staffers and conservative constituents to ensure the meaning of the moment is not lost.

No one should need an army of lawyers, lobbyists and accountants to succeed in this great nation. We have a chance to take back America, but it will require the Republican Party to fight for all Americans, not the powerful and well-connected.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/boehner-betrayed-his-party-213191