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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Take a look at this series about new fighter jocks in training. These young folks are ridiculously intelligent, talented and psychologically sounder than most. Superbly trained and pushed to the limit for months. They fail this course regularly. Even those those who fail are superb aviators.
I KNOW for a fact I could never have passed this course at a young age. I simply did not have the social skills (might not today lol). MAYBE I had the intellectual and flying ability...very maybe not..(although I did get kicked off Elmendorfs F-15C simulator for figuring out some classified radar weapons system stuff on the base simulator)
This is a NONTECHNICAL look what professional high risk flying looks like.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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'High risk flying" was my father's naval flight school in Corpus Christi flying N-10's - they lost a quarter of every class that went through the program.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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A good friend of mine was killed wingsuit BASE jumping in Switzerland a few weeks ago. He wasn't doing anything crazy. I went to his memorial service in Toronto just before Thanksgiving.
A couple of years ago I booked skydiving lessons because I wanted to work my way towards wingsuit BASE jumping. But my shoulders dislocate quite easily and I figured that it was probably not a good idea to get into that sport.
they lost a quarter of every class that went through the program
I graduated from Navy flight school with 36 others. Within 10 years, 20% of my classmates were dead from crashes, and none of those deaths were during combat. Peacetime Navy carrier aviation is more dangerous than combat.
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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"Peacetime Navy carrier aviation is more dangerous than combat."
Dad flew Banshee's off the Wasp. A carrier landing now is nerve-wracking. In the old days it was even worse. Dad would say he'd have loved to apply full power at touchdown like they do now. With the old planes they chopped power to catch a hook. He talks of landing an F4U Corsair on deck. The pilot comes in close lining up in the final turn only to lose sight of ship over nose of aircraft as they straighten out. Landing on a carrier in old times must have been truly terrifying.
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T2
climber
Cardiff by the sea
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Had the pleasure to meet Roberta and got on some of the same loads as her at a local DZ yesterday. What a bad ass flier she is.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jan 13, 2016 - 06:45pm PT
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RIP
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-california-wingsuit-flier-dies-after-jump-from-cliff-20160113-story.html
Arizona authorities are attempting to recover the body of a California man who died Tuesday while wingsuit flying with friends in the Paria Canyon-Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness area.
The Coconino County Sheriff's Office is planning to recover the body of 29-year-old Mathew Kenney of Santa Cruz on Thursday, Lt. Bret Axlund said. Kenney's body is 600 feet below the top of the cliff from where he jumped. His body is trapped in a small crevice.
"Due to the weather and the fact that the tops of the rocks are capped with ice, we're having difficulty getting anchors into the rock," Axlund said.
There had never been a death from BASE jumping in the Paria Canyon before Kenney's, Axlund said. BASE jumping has become more common in the area in recent years, he added
It appeared that Kenney was trying to fly through a "notch" in the contours of the mountain, but didn't have enough elevation to do so, Axlund said. Axlund described the notch as an indentation in the mountain.
Kenney had done 1,000 jumps prior to Tuesday's incident, Axlund said.
"Any time you jump from a cliff in such close proximity and fly in a wingsuit in excess of 100 miles an hour, feet away from obstructions, you're putting yourself in a dangerous position," Axlund said.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Jan 13, 2016 - 09:05pm PT
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... was trying to fly through a "notch" RIP to the fr-amily.
Proximity is one thing - you can snuggle up to a vertical wall with a pretty good margin of error, but this idea of flying over/ through a single horizontal target is a recipe for disaster.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jan 14, 2016 - 01:57pm PT
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After watching a recent proximity flying video I'm wondering do the flyers really research their lines?
You know the ones where the are flying close to the ground for hundreds or thousands of feet, and really only get enough altitude to deploy their chutes when they go past another large cliff into open air.
I guess without really thinking about it before I was just assuming they did. But when I really thought about what it would entail I realized how difficult that would be. You'd have to have a really accurate topo map and be able to compute the glide ratio in turns, account for possible drafts, and temperature inversions. Jeeze it would be a mind boggling amount of work.
So that leads me to believe people are really just winging it. Sorry couldn't avoid the horrible pun. That seems WAY too risky.
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snakefoot
climber
Nor Cal
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Jan 14, 2016 - 02:02pm PT
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^^^^Some people are doing a lot of research with google earth and looking at the glide ratio needed, including utilizing prior GPS data, taking into account time of day, wind speed/direction and temps...others are just getting a little closer on something they have already flown..
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jan 14, 2016 - 02:09pm PT
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Proximity is one thing - you can snuggle up to a vertical wall with a pretty good margin of error, but this idea of flying over/ through a single horizontal target is a recipe for disaster.
+1
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SalNichols
Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
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Jan 14, 2016 - 04:10pm PT
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That's just utter madness. We can set a minimum distance on a terrain following radar, and the "hardness" setting, i.e. how closely we need to follow the terrain. IOW a hard setting can be kind of rough on your intestines. These "pilots" don't have those sensors, nor the computational power to process their visual inputs fast enough to compensate, and in any case...they don't have ANY reserve power to bail them out of trouble. It's basically gravity vs a brick...a living breathing brick. I respect their desires, but IMHO, you're kinda tempting fate. Physics is kind of an unforgiving bitch.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jan 26, 2016 - 02:54pm PT
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-base-jumpers-dead-big-sur-bridge-20160126-story.html
Two BASE jumpers are presumed to have drowned after leaping off the iconic Bixby Bridge in Big Sur last week, sheriff’s officials said Tuesday.
Mary Katherine Connell of Ventura and an unidentified man from Finland remain missing, according to Cmdr. John Thornburg, spokesman for the Monterey County Sheriff’s Office.
The pair are believed to have been overpowered by tumultuous surf shortly after landing on a small beach below Pacific Coast Highway on Wednesday.
Authorities only learned of the jumpers' fate on Sunday, when they recovered a parachute and helmet camera on the beach, and then watched the recording.
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Redwood City
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Jan 26, 2016 - 03:10pm PT
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^^^ wow, got to wonder what they were thinking . Wouldn't you want to jump off that at low tide ?
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Jan 26, 2016 - 03:22pm PT
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Unless you have performed auto erotic asphyxiation 100 times then your commentary on choke-n-stroke is ignorant.
I'm selling a new stroke suit design with an emergency airbag to prevent tragic suffocation. You'll be fine. Trust me. I'm an expert.
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The guy above
climber
Across the pond
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Jan 26, 2016 - 03:58pm PT
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Not quite what happened Dingus.
She didn't land in the surf , but at the edge of the water. However a large set came in right at that moment which overcame her and dragged her into the sea.
He jumped straught away after seeing that, landed safely, took his helmet off, released his parachute, and then dove into the water to try help her.
A pretty f*#ked up and tragic accident.
Now back to the programmed schedule of misinformed ignorant posts
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Jan 26, 2016 - 05:46pm PT
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Heisenberg,
You're my kind of comedian. We should get together and compare sacks.
Unless you're a pussy.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Jan 26, 2016 - 06:02pm PT
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You're wishing death on me but promoting it to your dearest friends and heroes. Keep jumping and I'll probably get to laugh at your smear.
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