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Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2016 - 09:50am PT
Gneiss video Mouse. Thanks for sharing it.

After about 20 hours of putting together a mineral & old Chouinard climbing gear display cabinet, I started loading it up on Thanksgiving. I blush to admit that I purchased a "Martha Stewart Living” fabric storage cabinet through Home Depot.

It arrived un-assembled in three 70 lb. boxes. I knew from reading reviews, that I would need to add much reinforcement to what is basically a cheaply made P.O.S. piece of Chinese furniture. It wasn't quite a nightmare, but I even replaced tiny screws on the runners that were already stripped-out.

Right now, I'm pretty happy. Hopefully it won't collapse during the night.


Drawer 1. I still need to do some organizing there.

Drawer 1 closeup

Drawer 2. Mostly my Idaho & Nevada quartz & garnet specimens.

Drawer 3. Stuff I've purchased in up front center & right side. Idaho minerals at left.

Drawer 4. Every model of Chouinard carabiner & Chouinard pitons.

Drawers 5-8 are deeper, but narrower & a still a work in process.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Dec 18, 2016 - 07:45am PT
I missed this thread, Wow Fritz, great stuff!

I'm an advanced collector, I started as a kid, then took it up big time in College, then went into overdrive after I got married to a rock lover.

We field collect agate, gasper, petrified wood, crystals,feldspar, garnet, sand, gravel, ant fines and all kinds of other stuff and sell it to cactus growers. We have 1000s of pounds a year come and go through our compound.

And of course we collect and sell fine mineral specimens.
My collecting specialty is gem mineral crystals and rare minerals in crystal form.
My wife collects big crystals and rare cut gems.

Top shelf of the AAA gem glass case

Tourmaline shelf

Beryl collection a coupe years ago

as far as rare stuff goes, it's my newest passion
just got this in the mail
vorobeyevite beryl rosterite
a variety of Caesium Beryl

Hambergite
Be2(BO3)(OH)

Painite; The World's rarest Gem Mineral?

You can never have enough Sinhalite

I also buy wholesale lots of gemmy stuff for resale
Just got this bag O Topaz from Pakistan
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Dec 18, 2016 - 08:05am PT
This rock is a crowd pleaser.

I picked it up for $10 a gram from a Russian vender a show a couple years ago
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2016 - 08:21am PT
Awesome gems Craig! Thank you for sharing.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Dec 18, 2016 - 10:08am PT
It's Tuesday somewhere (?) so I'll post up some specimens from my mantle.

Rainbow obsidian I collected from the Rainbow Mine, Modoc National Forest, NorCal.

In 1985, about 3/4 of the way up the N Face of Les Courtes, I found a pocket under a boulder filled with smokey quartz crystals. I grabbed 8 of the best ones and kept climbing. The largest is the size of my fist, this is one of the mid sized pieces.


I didn't collect these, but they are mantle worthy at present.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 3, 2017 - 04:24pm PT
Nice specimens Edge. Somehow I missed your post earlier.

My last couple of overnight collecting trips before snow arrived, were to Northeast Nevada. I was able to find some interesting specimens around abandoned copper mines. I haven’t been able to positively identify some.

I found some nice Peacock ore, which is likely Bornite, an important copper mineral, but it could be Chalcopyrite, another copper mineral that was exposed to acidic water.


I found some rather unusual copper-stain pyrite, which makes it more likely that the Peacock ore is acid-affected Chalcopyrite.


What I'm pretty sure is Calcite, occured in some very different crystals.




I found small garnets at several mines & one specimen was unique to me since the crystals are irridescent. I can't get a great photo of it, but this is my best try.


Some of the small yellow-green garnets have great color & sparkle.

Then I have the true mystery specimens (to me) that don't match up with minerals found in the mining district.

Maybe a low quality Epidote?

And this blackish mineral that appears to have crystaline sprays. The only possibility from the district is a fairly-rare bismuth mineral, curiously named Bismuthite.


Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Jan 3, 2017 - 05:14pm PT
Here's some rare stuff

Enstatite
MgSiO3
Common mineral in meteorites and as small grains where found
But very rare as a nice crystal
Mogok, Myanmar

Kornerupine
you can't help but love the kornerupine
(Mg,Fe2+)4(Al,Fe3+)6(SiO4,BO4)5(O,OH)2
Sri Lanka

Diaspore
AlO(OH), metamorphosed Corundum
only Turkey has gem quality crystals, so far

Grandidierite
MgAl3O2(BO3)SiO4
Madagascar
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Jan 3, 2017 - 05:42pm PT
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Jan 3, 2017 - 06:57pm PT
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 3, 2017 - 09:01pm PT
Hey! Thanks all for posting up your rocks!

BraveCowboy! Is that tiny pin a new-generation RURP----or what?
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Jan 3, 2017 - 10:37pm PT
Hey Fritz!

It is just a hard to see BD micro stopper. The next pitch took a couple of the, sadly discontinued, petzl universel pins though. It was weird to feel my footholds vibrating through the rhyolite ash flow tuff as the pins lodged along the edges of the breccia clasts
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Jan 10, 2017 - 06:57pm PT
Holy Grail
Varyarenite, rough and cut
Mn2+Be(PO4)OH
Pakistan
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Jan 10, 2017 - 07:21pm PT
Johachidolite
very very rare
CaAlB3O7
Mogok, Myanmar
the purple inclusion is this specimen is photo active Hackmanite


Analcime
NaAlSi2O6·H2O
China

Topaz

An organic crystal that I grow

thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Jan 10, 2017 - 08:06pm PT

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Jan 17, 2017 - 10:33am PT
Nice Chalcedony Rose TBC
We have found buckets of the stuff near the Turtle Mts. near Needles, CA.

It has an inner glowing like quality.
I have a jar of near perfect round button roses and clear chalcedony drops.

Down near Palo Verde, you can find some with Fire, as in Fire Agate, which is not a opalescent fire.

Mine look like this
from Google images

I guess you can get good money for some of these specimens
TwistedCrank

climber
Released into general population, Idaho
Jan 17, 2017 - 11:18am PT
Geologists unearth fully intact rock.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2017 - 11:31am PT
TC: Awesome! That's some solid science.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2017 - 03:57pm PT
A Facebook friend posted some rock-art photos from The Amazing Geologist.

https://www.facebook.com/AmazingGeologist/posts/926020034158003

Backyard Landscaping Pebble Paths That Seem Shaped by The Wind
The designs showcased below have been created by using river stones carefully categorized into colors and sizes. You can only imagine the amount of work invested into such a grand design.


The above photos show nice work, but as a historian, I'd like to share the rest of the story.

Mosaic making, the art of gluing stones, tiles, or pieces of glass into pleasing patterns or images, has been around for about 5,000 years.

Wikipedia has a nice short article on the subject. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic
The word mosaic is from the Italian mosaico deriving from the Latin mosaicus and ultimately from the Greek mouseios meaning belonging to the Muses, hence artisti.

I've enjoyed a number of ancient mosaics in Europe & have even managed to save images of a few that are 1,000 to 2,000 years old.

The National Museum of Archaeology in Naples has a lot of fine mosaics, mostly recovered from the ruins of Pompeii.


This damaged The Battle of Alexander the Great and Darius was the most impressive mosaic in the museum, to me. It measures 8’9” x 16’7” (2.7 x 5.1 m) and is thought to be a copy of an original Greek painting from 310BCE.

We enjoyed some nice mosaics from Roman times along the Rhone River in France too.


So many rocks, so little time.


Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2017 - 12:09pm PT
Idaho Magazine just published my 10 page story about finding a large mystery mine near the summit of 10,529’ White Knob Mountain, a few miles west of the old mining town of Mackay, in the Lost River Valley. The mine shows on 7 ½’ USGS maps, but does not show up in the comprehensive Idaho Geologic Survey databases, or on the Forest Service abandoned mines report for the area.
Here's the magazine story link.
https://www.idahomagazine.com/article/the-mammoth-mine-rediscovered/

White Knob Mountain, so named for the white limestone it is mostly composed of.


The mine explores a “contact-zone” where hot granite had pushed into ancient limestone millions of years back. Contact zones often produce valuable minerals.
A piece of “contact-zone rock, showing white limestone & altered “contact-zone” rock.


A view down the inclined shaft

Looking out a short adit (tunnel) that runs to the shaft.


A Google-Earth view of the mine, with my captions. The summit of White Knob Mountain is at the top of the photo. The intruding granite is visible just left of the adits & the limestone is to the right, with the steep old road descending from center to the right.

With a bunch of research, I finally found some 1880’s history on the mine and identified it as The Mammoth Mine.

A newspaper in the nearest county seat employed a correspondent, who sent in regular reports on the mines in the Lost River area. On May 27, 1884, The report from Alder Creek included this information:
“Messrs Peterson, Talbitt, & Canady have the Mammoth & Copenhagen claims up Alder Gulch. On the first named, a 75 foot shaft shows a 6-foot wide vein of galena & carbonates ; the second has a tunnel 100 feet long showing four-feet of ore averaging 90 oz.” (per- ton of ore)
June 24 1884: “Colonel Brodhead of Ketchum was in the first of last week looking at the Mammoth Mine up Alder Creek. He has the refusal of the valuable property for a few days for $30,000. I visited the mine last Saturday & have no hesitation in pronouncing it the biggest thing on Lost River. Floyd Perkins was with us, and on our way to the mine we were caught in a regular Dakota blizzard, and since then Floyd is thinking strongly about migrating to Central Africa.”
June 3, 1887: “E.R. Ferris, the senior member of Ferris Bros. of New York, will arrive here in a few days and work will immediately resume on the Mammoth Mine -which is indeed a mammoth mine- in which that company has a controlling interest. They will proceed at once with erection of concentrating works & the systematic development of the property.”
Oct. 15, 1887: “The concentrating works recently completed for the Mammoth Mine on Alder Creek by the Ferris Brothers are a complete success in every way. Under the efficient management & superintendence of our neighbor Charles Akin the building and all its accessories have been put up in first class style and finished in a manner highly credible to his reputation as a competent mechanic. In view of the high altitude and deep snowfall, the owners failed to make adequate preparation to run the works all winter and will probably soon suspend operations until spring.”

There were no reports on the Mammoth Mine for several years, then:

June 30, 1892: “At Houston (Idaho) there has been some signs of a revival in mining interest. Mr. Turner of Sheffield England, an experience mining man, has lately arrived, and with ample backing of English capital, has commenced the systematic development of the Mammoth Mine on Alder Creek, the property of our popular friend & neighbor George E. Ferris of Arco. So far they have only had a few men at work repairing the road & rebuilding bridges, etc, but in a few days they will commence work at the mine and increase their force to probably a dozen or more, and if developments justify it, start up the concentrating works again, which have for so long been standing idle. We not only wish but expect for them the success so well deserved, for the Mammoth is indeed a magnificent property.”
“Upon the whole, there are now visible many rifts in the clouds of adversity and disappointment, and if a kind providence saves us from the grass-hoppers & mosquitoes, we will, in fine shape, weather the storm. J.D.M.”

The last newspaper article I found that mentions the Mammoth Mine is one dated Sept. 16, 1892:

“The Mammoth Mine on Alder Creek suspended work a few weeks ago, just after completing a good road and making a bare beginning of work in developing the mine. Mr. Turner, the eccentric Englishman in charge of the mine has returned to England leaving us all impressed with the idea that the ways of “Ye mining expert” are past finding out.”
There is no record of the Mammoth Mine ever reopening, but I had the clues I needed to identify the mine near the summit of White Knob Mountain.

1. It was the only mine I found in upper Mammoth Canyon with a shaft.
2. A very steep old road, that is now barely a trail leads from the canyon bottom to the mine.
3. A large collapsed building that still has some large pieces of iron visible, is on a short spur from this road, and it the only structure in the canyon that could be the “Concentrating Works” mentioned in the articles.

The Idaho Geologic Survey does identify a lower more recent mine at the head of Mammoth Canyon as the Mammoth or Mildred Mine, but it doesn’t fit the above description.

Shortly after the article was published, I contacted the Idaho Geologic Survey & found a geologist willing to look at my information. After some good questions, he is willing to share my information with his bosses & thinks it likely that they will include my discovery in their database, with my photos included.

This map shows White Knob at top left with the Mammoth Mine shaft just left of the summit. The mis-identified Mammoth Mine is the next tunnel marked Adit, directly to the south & at a much lower elevation.

The icing on this lost mine cake for me is: the mine sets at 10,468’, which also makes it the highest mine in Idaho. There may be some higher prospect holes, but nothing with a road & a history.

The only problem is, I didn’t find many good rocks there. All I found at the Mammoth Mine was some minor chrysocolla stained rocks. Lower on the mountain I found a few garnets & one specimen with some galena crystals.




the albatross

Gym climber
Flagstaff
Feb 7, 2017 - 05:18pm PT
Nice find Fritz and thanks for sharing!
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