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sempervirens
climber
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I find it difficult to do parallel turns on my tele gear (Black Diamond Push boots with Work Stynx). It seems like I can't lean forward enough to weight the ski tips. If I lean forward I get off balance because of the free heel. If I don't lean forward then I'm skiing in the back seat.
Telemarking is harder on the knees than alpine. Telemarking is fun as hell. I think that is its only advantage.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Just like alpining, you gotta learn to deal with less than perfect snow with a free heel.
My knees hurt a lot worse after a day of alpining. Tele places strain on the biggest muscles in your bodies (quads, hamstrings) instead of directly on your knees. This was a surprising finding for me and ymmv.
This discussion will be somewhat moot next season. There is talk/minor rumblings of some new hybrid bindings are set to hit the market. Using the new tech toe compatible tele boots, they come with a heel locking option. So if you get caught having to navigate the last 800' of re-frozen mank/breakable crust/whatever, you will be able to lock down the heel, and then release it so you can stride across the flat spot before the car. I will be adapting and I will thankfully draw from the best of both worlds on the same lap.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Timid on Roundtop near Carson Pass
Marty cruising corn on Elephants Back
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enjoimx
Trad climber
SLO
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Wilbeer, I ended up buying the Scarpa T4 after a lot of deliberation and your comments helped. They were a good deal on outdoorprolink. I'll take a pic of my whole setup once they arrive. Now we just need snow on the west coast. I live in Yosemite, no snow here yet, well Clouds rest and I'm sure Tuolumne has a tiny bit.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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T4 is a great choice!!! Will match those skis and bindings well.
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Mark
climber
bend, oregon
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Wilbeer,
Wondering if that pic you posted of Canadice Hill is in the Finger Lakes region near Canadice Lake?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2014 - 02:13pm PT
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Mark,you bet.That is Canadice Hill @ Harriet Hollister Spencer State Recreation Area.
Been maintaining glades there for 25 years.
Great skiing of all types nordic,Gets Lake effect from Lake Erie.
Just SE of Canadice Lake.My friend Ian lives right at the bottom of a nice 13-1400 ft. vertical drop just south of Honeoye Lake.
Edit;Mark,that was a great time lapse of the Dacks you made!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2014 - 03:13pm PT
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Just missed one of the true gods of the Tele,
Bill Kirchen played a great room friday night in Rochester.[Click to View YouTube Video]
Enjoimx,you will dig the T4's.I do.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Earning those turns is an art too, I sure appreciate a well done skin track and listening to the perfect music on my iPod:
Breathe, breathe in the air
Don't be afraid to care
Leave but don't leave me
Look around and choose your own ground
For long you live and high you fly
And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be
Run, rabbit, run
Dig that hole, forget the sun,
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
For long you live and high you fly
But only if you ride the tide
And balanced on the biggest wave
You race toward an early grave.
Got to love PF for those long days in the trench.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Love 🙌 this thread.
Wonderful pics and stories. Getting me stoked!!
Susan
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2014 - 05:27am PT
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Frozen Corn,not the easiest to ski,but ,I would take it right now.[Click to View YouTube Video]
It will be here soon ,SC.Thank You.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2014 - 06:29am PT
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Phred ,who lurks here,approves.
He cares if you Tele.
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perswig
climber
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Based on the next storm track, you're living right, Wilbeer.
Enjoy!
Dale
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Today on US 50:
Ha! As the sign says PLAN YOUR TRAVEL !!! Looks like the Sierra is about to get a much needed storm, just hope it's colder.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Here's a cool tele video from BITD. Mt. Washington and deep spring conditions:
http://vimeo.com/113924299
edit - I mostly ski tech bindings these days in the backcountry - super lightweight, they actually release - so good for avalanche safety, plus long stride with boots like the TLT 5 or 6. TLTs have so much range of motion in tour mode, that some people even drive with them - guide or industry related, NOT on the freeway. Plus they are solid mountaineering boots. Bellows and duckbills suck with crampons.
I still have fun with tele, but plastic tele boots are so heavy, they're better for resort skiing than touring and climbing :-)
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John M
climber
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This is my favorite argument on the Taco. The more you argue.. the better the pics get. Please keep arguing.. hahaha.. love it.
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sempervirens
climber
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This is a great thread for ski stoke. Storm coming here in N. Cal! Please!
In other thoughts: dang-it-all Wilbeer, backcountry or not, will you please get those hands down. I can't stand it.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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^^^Ha! Hands down or up wilbeer you're welcomed to join our posse if you should find yourself some winter in the Trench of Highway 50 on a hunch you would assimilate well.
Great thread for as my wife calls it "the season of mono-thought". Can't believe I'm leaving CA this weekend, poor timing but at least I'm headed to Bozeman, MT with hopes of seeing the Blue Light flash on the Baxter.
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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