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Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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Oct 16, 2012 - 04:15pm PT
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Wow Ron, did you draw that all by yourself?
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happiegrrrl
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www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Oct 16, 2012 - 04:15pm PT
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Now as i predicted, obama has thrown Billary under the bus for the libyan debacle. Hes doing that NOW for the purpose of looking "clean" for the upcoming election and that is a sign of someone that will sell out their OWN and hes done this before.
I don't recall seeing any news article where the president said "it's Hillary's fault." The news I heard this morning had sound bites from Hillary Clinton where SHE said she took responsibility, and that the decisions made regarding the increased security in the region were based on information provided by security experts whose jobs fell under her supervision.
Do you mind linking to where Obama is blaming her?
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Oct 16, 2012 - 04:19pm PT
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Ron, I am not trying to sell you anything, You apparently have made your mind up. Let's see what unfolds and where it takes us, as a nation.
I may live abroad, and have my own trials and tribulations, but I do care very much what happens to my country, a country that my father's family has been in since 1640, and mother's family since 1840 (well the Irish, both German sides came over in 1843, Bavaria and Dortmund).
Ron, you vote like you want to, what your heart and mind says. That is easy enough. And I think that you have looked at the issues. But are you, perhaps, missing something? Only you know.
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guyman
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Moorpark, CA.
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Oct 16, 2012 - 04:24pm PT
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Ron.....
+1
3.5 YEARSis enuf to tell just what is going on.
It will be sad to not see him "have more flexability" - as he said to Mr. Putan.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 16, 2012 - 04:24pm PT
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Ron, that's the lamest 'graphic' I've ever seen posted on these threads.
Seriously.
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Jon Beck
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Oceanside
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Oct 16, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
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One of Mittens dorm advisors at Stanford was David Harris. Mitts father eventually came around and admitted the the war in Vietnam was a big mistake, I wonder if the Republican Party would allow Mitt to make that confession?
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apogee
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Oct 16, 2012 - 04:36pm PT
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That dumbass 'graphic' makes cchopper's stooopid stuff look positively professional.
I'm embarrassed for you, Ron.
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apogee
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Oct 16, 2012 - 04:41pm PT
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"of computer graphics i know NOTHING "
Like so many other subject areas....
...but that doesn't seem to stop the yellow custard from spewing forth from yer arse...
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WBraun
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Oct 16, 2012 - 04:50pm PT
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Apogee
Quit yer stupid personal rants on Ron.
You've made your points enough.
He doesn't have computer skills like you. Big fuking deal!
But he has other skills that you can't do either. And they are awesome!
Tell us how to fix the world instead of always trying to make yourself look better against Ron.
That just makes you look stupid .......
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happiegrrrl
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Oct 16, 2012 - 05:00pm PT
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Happie ,, tell me your NOT that naive !?? THIS IS BLAME .. trrrrust me.
Except there are no words attributed to Obama in that article....
The way I see the statement made by Clinton is one of supporting her party, and knowing full well that there are those who will latch on to the claims Ryan made at the VP debate that the admin caused these assassinations, is doing what any smart campaign would do.
Is it spin? I don't think so. Spin usually means you are trying to sell something that isn't factual. Do you REALLY think that the president and vice president are aware of every detail that our country and government is involved in? I would have to be surprised that anyone would actually be that naive, to use your word.
There is one sentence from that article, that I would like to point out though.
Bloomberg News reported Sunday that Ambassador Stevens' father said he believes his son's death is being investigated adequately and said it would be "abhorrent to make this into a campaign issue."
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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Oct 16, 2012 - 05:13pm PT
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here is what i posted on the other thread about hilary taking one for the team.
9/11/12 - attack on libyan consulate kills US ambassador. white house blames a youtube video and says that it was not terrorists. really? does the date 9/11 mean anything to them? seriously? and they further say it was just a mob.
it took them forever to back tack on this. i knew it was hilary's responsibility when it happened. why didnt the white house blame her then? because billy bob had just provided one of the best speaches anywhere for BO. NOBODY, could have given a speech like billy bob did, so the white house couldnt blame hilary for the libyan incident.
are you seeing how politics RUNS the white house under obama. there are no principles but votes and popularity. and then follow the timeline some more. BO gets his ass handed to him by MR in the debate. further incriminating info comes out on libya. and just yesterday they throw hilary under the bus. that should have happened on 9/12/12 or at least that week.
the only thing that BO's whitehouse adheres to is popularity and votes.
perhaps thats what you want, then by all means vote for that. but dont be so blinded by your own ignorance as to pretend there are any principles there.....
of course the response i will get is romney is worse. thats the problem, with you all on this thread. you can't take the truth.
the problem is if you are totally for obama, you are as mindless as anyone totally for mitt.
mindless = mindless
mindless + mindless = mindless
Squareroot (mindless) = mindless
got it?
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graniteclimber
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The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Oct 16, 2012 - 05:14pm PT
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Is Ron Anderson Stage 5 or Stage 6?
World renowned psychologist Dr. Christopher Zimmermann has developed a classification scheme for people who suffer from ODS.
Obama Derangement Syndrome (ODS) Classification Scheme
Stage 1 Obama Derangement Syndrome
Early symptoms include subtle, low level criticisms of Obama's "leadership" abilities. A simple understanding of separation of powers and what Obama can/can not do is enough to reverse most ailments.
Stage 2 Obama Derangement Syndrome
At this stage, attacks on the President begin to take on a nonsensical element such as criticism of Obama playing Golf, taking a vacation with his family, or eating mustard on his hamburger. The tone used by stage 2 sufferers mimics that of a gossip tabloid or an unhappy teenager's blog.
Stage 3 Obama Derangement Syndrome
As the disease progresses, deeply held anger, resentment, and fear manifests itself. Those afflicted with ODS-3 are unable to call the President by his name. They use incendiary monikers such as Barry, Obummer, Zero. The derangement begins to branch out to Obama's family. Even mentioning Michelle Obama's campaign to encourage healthy lifestyles is enough to cause hysterical fits of rage.
Stage 4 Obama Derangement Syndrome
Opposition to Obama becomes not just predictable, but a force of habit. Those afflicted use phrases like, "Anyone but Obama." The diseased begin to take any position, so long as it is not Obama's position. They begin to mock ideas like "hope" and "change" as naive, simply because Obama embodies them.
Stage 5 Obama Derangement Syndrome
As stage 5 ODS sets in, the assaults on the President's character begin to imply he is evil at his core. The development of conspiracies that suggest Obama is knowingly executing an agenda that will harm America are commonplace. Questions like, "Is Obama A Bigger Threat Than Al Qaeda?" and "Obama: A Radical Leftist Who Seeks To Dismantle Capitalism?" are common place.
Stage 6 Obama Derangement Syndrome
This stage is mostly reserved for birthers and bigots. People who have developed ODS-6 are offended by Barack Obama's very existence. The subtle racial undertones, kept concealed in the previous stages of the disease, can no longer be contained. They find it impossible to believe that a black man could be elected President of "their" country, despite the overwhelming evidence that the President was born in America.
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apogee
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Oct 16, 2012 - 05:30pm PT
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Ron & Hawkeye, you guys make Lois & Donald look good.
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apogee
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Oct 16, 2012 - 05:36pm PT
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From link above:
"...given the extent to which Ambassador Chris Stevens's death has become a political football, despite his father's pleading that "it would really be abhorrent to make this into a campaign issue."
Ron, you should be ashamed of yourself.
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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Oct 16, 2012 - 05:36pm PT
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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Monday said the first line-of-duty death of a U.S. ambassador since the Carter Administration was on her. "I take responsibility," Clinton told CNN's Elise Labott during a brief trip to Lima, Peru. "I'm in charge of the State Department's 60,000-plus people all over the world, 275 posts. The president and the vice president wouldn't be knowledgeable about specific decisions that are made by security professionals. They're the ones who weigh all of the threats and the risks and the needs and make a considered decision."
GC, from that post (thanks by the way).
great....it only took hilary 40 plus days to figure out that she was the SecState. damn thats brillinace right there!
then she goes on to say that even though she is in charge, that it is the security professionals who make the security decisions. right.
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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Oct 16, 2012 - 05:37pm PT
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"...given the extent to which Ambassador Chris Stevens's death has become a political football, despite his father's pleading that "it would really be abhorrent to make this into a campaign issue."
apogee,
the white house only made it an issue by hiding the truth for so long....
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apogee
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Oct 16, 2012 - 05:40pm PT
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From link above:
"...given the extent to which Ambassador Chris Stevens's death has become a political football, despite his father's pleading that "it would really be abhorrent to make this into a campaign issue."
Hawkeye, you should be ashamed of yourself.
You guys (and the Party you will vote for in November) hate Obama enough to set aside any kind of human decency and respect in order to make political points.
Beyond pathetic.
Edit: Hawkeye, your Party's candidate didn't even let Steven's blood dry before he started playing politics with this tragedy.
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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Oct 16, 2012 - 05:45pm PT
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poor apogee,
reader comprehension is not your strong suit is it?
if the white house had not tried to cover this up it would be a non-issue. but i can't expect you to be able to see something when you have a problem.
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apogee
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Oct 16, 2012 - 05:58pm PT
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"So in the end the only real difference is a lack of class on the lefts part here..."
"It seems attacks are their norm here, dunno why exaclty, other than being way to left to see the center. "
Yes, yes...the Left can be sooooo harsh, can't they?
Hawkeye, your Party's candidate didn't even let Steven's blood dry before he started playing politics with this tragedy.
Why do you hate America?
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