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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2012 - 09:59am PT
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Thank you Sierra-L-R.
Yes this is the anti-Ramming, Mucho-respect thread.
Go-B and others who like to post long passages from scripture on other threads. I feel like that is ramming. It doesn't help anyone.
A good sermon should inspire people to get over their troubles in life and inspire them to face and build a better future. It should be left to professionals who are trained to do this.
The best thing a non-professional can do is open his heart and testify. Good testimony should not ramble, that is why I provided the formula in the OP.
As mentioned earlier, those who have testified provided very moving statements. On the Politics-Religion thread, people spew at each other and it is commonly said that those statements are a waste because the change nobody -- True.
I believe that the right statement in the right place can create a positive affect on others. Earlier in this thread The Cosmic Cragsman made his testimony. I was changed for the better by reading that simple statement.
I have also experienced personal and lasting change by reading the other testimonies in this thread. I have a greater feeling of respect and understanding for these people. I feel the love that is the core of what works about Christianity.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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Aug 19, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
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Hey, everyone. Splitter just made my day!
Thanks, buddy. I sure needed that...
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Aug 19, 2012 - 02:48pm PT
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can't fake faith, One has it or one does not.
i'll believe it when I can put my finger in the spear wound.
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Aug 19, 2012 - 02:52pm PT
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Mouse, You are so welcome, man!
And thanks for acknowledging that!
You in turn just made my day!
We be buds, for life know, bro!!
:)
edit: t*r, it is all about LOVE...unconditional LOVE!!
"You shall love your neighbor, as you love yourself."
Your neighbor is everyone you come into contact with. Ultimately, that could be anyone in the world.
Itisall about the two Great Commandments, just like CosmicCragsman posted!
Love God with all your heart -- Love your neighbor as yourself
We all have to work at it. All of our lives. And someone you love, you will also forgive! Otherwise you are not loving them!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Aug 19, 2012 - 03:06pm PT
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So learn to type using another finger, already. Sheesh!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 19, 2012 - 03:09pm PT
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hey there say, johnEleazarian....
as to this small quote:
As my best friend since first grade (and still my best earthly friend other than my wife) said: "Something happened to you. You're different."
say, you know (yes, i KNOW you know)--it is SO TRUE... :)
and that 'peace that passes understanding' is what so many see, as well...
thank you for post about your family... and how the anchor of god
has been your stay through thick and thin, and storms that blow...
i am eternaly greatful for him in my life, for too many reasons,
so deep....
god bless...
:)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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Aug 19, 2012 - 03:20pm PT
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We'll forgive you and just try to love what's left over!
Midget digits ain't cool.
Christ was a carpenter, bent all kinds of nails.
Then He became a fisherman and filled up Peter's sails.
I love you, Rock, said the Lord.
Then He chucked him overboard.
How much do you love me now, Peto?
Remember, this is only a test.
I love Christ like a brother. Can do no more.
As they say in Wayne's World, "We're not worthy."
Turns out its OK to be unworthy. It's everyone's lot if you buy into original sin, which I much don't. Can't take the fall for the Fall.
I like the Christian music I like because I like John Fahey, Christopher Parkening, and Doc Watson, all of whom rely on hymns as part of their gigs.
In Christ There Is No East of West (JF). Simple Gifts (CP).
And this one, a favorite, done by Doc and reprised here on this mellow Sunday morning (now afternoon).
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Aug 19, 2012 - 03:22pm PT
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t*r -- i like this a lot:
WOW! That IS really awesome.
I like it a lot, also!
Thanks, t*r!!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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Aug 19, 2012 - 03:26pm PT
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This topic is growing just like a mustard seed, innit?
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Aug 19, 2012 - 03:34pm PT
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Mr. Cragman,
Sorry to here about your finger tip. That sounds painful along with being bloody. Maybe if it doesn't stop bleeding by manana ya should have it looked at. Hope you won't need a skin graft. Certainly don't wanna get it infected. Redness + heat...I'm sure your familiar with all that, eh!
edit: MM (Mr. Mouse) Yep, just like mustard seed! ;)
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Aug 19, 2012 - 05:44pm PT
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Awesome testimony, Dean!
That is really special that Keith Green led you to the Lord, and that you got to see him before he passed away at such a young age. He died not long after you saw him. He was my favorite performer during that time. I never did get to see him, thought i had forever to do so, then suddenly he was gone. Plane crash, if i correctly recall!
edit: btw, beautiful song, dat! thanx!!
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Aug 19, 2012 - 05:50pm PT
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Dean,
Thanks for sharing. It's funny you mention Keith Green, his music has been very pivotal in my walk at certain times. His death was one that like the death of a president you will always remember where you were when you heard the news. I was at Forest Home High School Camp when I heard. There was a sense of shock but also a great sense of peace and thankfulness for his life.
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micronut
Trad climber
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Aug 19, 2012 - 06:21pm PT
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I was losing patience with all the filth and ridicule on this thread by all the dudes with shallow jabs and unsolicited hatred. But I've gotten some great e-mails and have enjoyed reading the last few posts.
Lets take this hijacked thread back. Keep the stories and testimonies of the christian faith comin yall. I'll post up a couple more soon. We had a great sermon on Paul's persecution in Philipi today. May his boldness empower you guys in the coming days. Read Philippians 2:19-24 today if you want to know what persecution is really about. Bring it on says I.
See you around,
Scott
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Aug 19, 2012 - 06:48pm PT
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Keep the stories and testimonies of the christian faith comin yall
umm ..............
and..from the original op. whatever faith that may post here, be proud of who they are being for a moment.
Recently, i attended a Bat Mitzvah and was very moved by the Beautiful ceremony...It made me want to go to Synagogue.
I would like to hear some stories from different faiths... Muslim, Buddhist, Mormon, Jewish..etc... if that's ok.....anyone?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Aug 19, 2012 - 07:18pm PT
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Aug 17, 2012 - 04:00pm PT
Cool post, Klimmer. I immediately noticed that you know the Lord by some of his ancient Hebrew names like Adonai and Elohim and indeed even Jeshua.
My favourite name for God is Yahweh, which is a loose anglicization of the ancient Hebrew name which curiously lacks in vowels: YHWH meaning "I am who I am"
I also know him as Abba.
Pete,
Yep. That is The Name Of G_D. :-))
My favourite name for God is Yahweh, which is a loose anglicization of the ancient Hebrew name which curiously lacks in vowels: YHWH meaning "I am who I am"
The Hebrew letters for YHWH purposefully leave out the vowels so we don't write the actual name of G_D or pronounce it. To be honest, Orthodox Jews have forgotten how to properly pronounce the name of G_D correctly. Another reason they steer away from trying to pronounce his real name now.
This comes from the commandment not to use the Lord's name in vain.
I didn't know all this until I recently started attending a Messianic Synagogue. You can pronounce the name of G_D in private alone in prayer, but we aren't supposed to say it publically out of respect for G_D and not to offend our fellow brothers and sisters in the faith, no matter if your Christian, Messianic Jew or Gentile, or devout Judaic Jew.
The Complete Jewish Bible, includes the OT and NT! goes into all of this. Great Bible and study guide. It goes into all the different names of G_D and what they mean, including YHWY: Hashem = the name not spoken, Adonai = Lord, Elohim = the plurality G_D of G_D The Father, G_D The Son, and G_D The Holy Ghost, but they are one.
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Jewish-Bible-OE-David-Stern/dp/1880226480/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1345417768&sr=1-1&keywords=the+complete+jewish+bible
By the way, the translator for the complete Jewish Bible from UCLA is Dr. David H. Stern. He specifically says about himself in the back of the book, that along with being a professor at UCLA, he's a mountain-climber, and co-author on a book on surfing, and owner of a health food store.
He has since retired and done aliyah and is now living in Israel with his wife. Anyway, great Bible for everyone. The understanding and roots of your faith will grow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah
:-))
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Aug 19, 2012 - 08:18pm PT
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Thanks for that story Cragman, I am left touched, moved and inspired. Jude
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John Butler
Social climber
SLC, Utah
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Aug 19, 2012 - 10:34pm PT
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Believing is like a bow tie. You spend half your life thinking they look silly. But then you put one on and you feel cool in it. But most everyone else still thinks you look silly. Bow tie or not, you are cool with me.
:-)
jb
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