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SalNichols
Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
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The EC-121 flew over the RVN. It wasn't called AWACS back then, but was a multi sensor airborne package housed in a Connie.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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It was never called airwacs.
to use cheef and ron's terms, shet....
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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One thing i know about the military is never bend over in front of a Navy guy...rj
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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I'll throw in this.
Fifty percent of my unit - the guys at my level, not the lifers - were drafted. A huge differential in the quality of the soldiers. Draftees scored better at everything.
Not only that, ALL of the suicides were RAs. None drafted.
I heard this Bowe d00d was a PFC. A PFC and he's overseas? Things go well and he's an E4, out of AIT. Did he have an Article 15?
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crankster
Trad climber
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Soon, the nutjob party will take the stage with a parade of goons, clowns and people with bad hair. They are debates, but it's really the funniest reality show ever.
Let's see you get one of those idiots elected. Then you can have your way.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Oh boy, another thread on the Life of Rifleman Ron, anti-government militia member!
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Tis Tis boys!
My money is on Survival........................
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Soon, the nutjob party will take the stage with a parade of goons, clowns and people with bad hair. They are debates, but it's really the funniest reality show ever.
LOL. They should host their own comedy TV channel. Oh wait, Fox News! Too bad more folks don't realize that it's just another sit-com (the only thing they're missing is the canned laughter).
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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OK... let's play KMAN.
You mean you're going to back up your statement that the five released Git'mo detainees are going back to their homeland to rejoin the Taliban?
Yeah, let's play.
[tic tic tic...]
OK, it's been a couple of days, The Chief, and I'm still waiting for you to back up your statement. I backed up my statement in a few minutes, should we set a time limit for you?
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John M
climber
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Ron.. please back up your statement. Where do you get that information from?
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John M
climber
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A link please to where you got this information..
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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I could care less. One active duty deserter POW is worth 50 of those guys to me. Even if he must be courtmartialed as soon as we have him back.
Some things are more important than the man involved. "leave none behind" IS a critical code.
2nd none of these men have been tried. They are also POWs. Without trial whatever info has been released by their legal adversary (US govt) is at best questionable. However even if factual does not in my mind outweigh our duty to principle.
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fluffy
Trad climber
Colorado
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Wallah
Says the dipsh#t
US =/= UN
The unnamed source above? Fox News lol
Anyway, they sat in gitmo for years, uncharged with any crime. What does that tell you?
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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^^^^ Far be it for me to agree with Ron A. We don't agree on much as far as I can see, but I have found this exact verbiage independently. This whole thing smells like a red herring to me. The Office of the Pres HAD to have known this would cause a stir.
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John M
climber
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Nice one Ron.. but its you who quoted something and its you who should back it up. Especially after all the nonsense that you posted on Bundy which turned out to be patently false. Your sources are suspect and if you want to be heard, then you should back up what you posted. You obviously got this information from somewhere.. you certainly had it at hand. So where did you get it from?
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Regardless the stir or political price Obama did the right thing.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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The Commander In Chief knew exactly what he was doing. God bless him.
Edit: F*#k Blundy and his little band of terrorists.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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I totally agree they did the right thing. It's the timing that is interesting.... everyone knew lots more than is let on. THe politics is covering up what's really happening, and mass media is being used as a tool. What is really going on most of us will probably never know.
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Braunini
Big Wall climber
cupertino
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It does not get any more Supertopo than this thread
Drink it in
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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So what law is the Pres breaking. All administrations seem to bend the rules to their will. What is so different.
I'm actually listening. Serious Q.
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