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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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Aug 22, 2011 - 07:05pm PT
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Alright folks, just a little update for those who don't want to read the entire thread to figure out what happened. A bear broke some screens at Cragman's house during the night so he freaked out, ran downstairs and outside with a gun, shot the bear five times in the head, and even shot it in the ass cause he was so skeered.
Cragman was so amped, he jumped on Supertopo to post a bitching tr about how badass he is (law enforcement fluffer, SAR, and some other meaningless shit) and ended up blaming the bear ("it chaarged me!!!!") and posed (in true dipshit poser style) with his kill , which in the photos appears to be running down the driveway to get away from his ignorant ass.
Now, instead of saying he over-reacted, he asserts that he saved the June Lake community from this violent predator (i.e., picnic basket thief). It seems we should be thanking him...
The bear never made it into the house, and really was pretty small.
Its a sad day for June lake and bears on the Eastside.
Thanks for returning to supertopo and showing us your kill!?!?!?!?! WTF?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 22, 2011 - 07:09pm PT
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So endeth Atch's seminar in spin doctoring.
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apogee
climber
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Aug 22, 2011 - 07:13pm PT
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Look, Cragman, I really don't take issue with your decision to take that bear out. Not having been there, and looking at the pics of your home, I'd give you the benefit of the doubt on your decision.
It's just that abu-ghraib style victory pic that rubs wrong. You could have posted this thread with all of the same text, and if you had omitted that one image and instead included a statement along the lines of 'I'm leaving out the bear images in the interest of respect for the animal' (or something like that), and it would probably would have quelled much of the snarky comments. (I might still have ribbed you for attention getting, though.)
What's amusing is how you post an image like that, knowing damn well that there are some who won't like seeing it (and will take advantage of the opportunity to rail on you), then feign indignation at the 'haters'. (And WTF does Christ & Christianity have to do with this, anyway?)
You are a well-liked staple & lightning rod of ST, and you've been around long enough to know how things work. Stop acting like a victim, and keep working on that slippery back.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 22, 2011 - 07:16pm PT
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But he IS a victim.
And I still want to know what a spray infraction is (at least I think I do).
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Aug 22, 2011 - 07:33pm PT
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Doesn't mean I would have circumcised the bear.
Yamake bear says" "Forced Circumcision? Oi Vey"? !!
Yamake bear also says "Haters gonna hate like dogs that bark at the Caravan, but the caravan continues"....
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 22, 2011 - 07:38pm PT
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That bear looks like he has lost more than the little turtleneck.
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okie
Trad climber
San Leandro, Ca
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Aug 22, 2011 - 07:44pm PT
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One less large rodent. A no-longer-problem bear.
Sounds like you had it cornered on the deck, with somewhat inferior artillery in your hand.
So it came towards you, absorbing rounds to the head as it went past you and off the deck to the driveway? I would have just stepped back inside but hey, I wasn't there.
The first bear I ever saw was a dead one. It was gigantic. This was in the sixties in Minnesota and they shot that thing just because it was in the garbage bins...
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Aug 22, 2011 - 07:47pm PT
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Apogee... it seems you chose to interpret his post that way.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 22, 2011 - 07:52pm PT
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I imagine certain posters would be even more indignant if, before taking the photo, Cragman had put his pajamas on the bear, but he could have gotten a much funnier thread title out of it,..
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reddirt
climber
PNW
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Aug 22, 2011 - 08:06pm PT
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t's just that abu-ghraib style victory pic that rubs wrong
In conjunction w/ the narrative, Crag's pic doesn't seem as gloating/victorious as abu-ghraib. I sorta saw it as "let me share what happened". Someone else can google abu-ghraib pix & compare 'em side by side if they want.
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/inland_empire&id=8310360
'"Two fast ones and then I heard the most awful sound of the bear groaning in agony," neighbor ... said.' At least Crag minimized the suffering of the bear he shot.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Aug 22, 2011 - 08:09pm PT
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For the record, I do own a pair of plaid pants that I wear in proudly in public. :)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 22, 2011 - 08:14pm PT
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Black bears DO have a very mournful cry.
I recorded a yearling that was caught in a trap set for its mother because she had swatted a camper the night before. She was caught and destroyed, and that yearling called for her for hours then, released, found itself on its own.
Life is tough in bearville.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 22, 2011 - 08:18pm PT
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Crimpy,
show us your plaid.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Aug 22, 2011 - 08:20pm PT
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The only problem I see here are the pants.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Aug 22, 2011 - 08:30pm PT
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Photoshop away. And put some plaids on me please. I'll look awkward with the gun though - not an owner.
My plaid pants ROCK! Too lazy to find the camera for a photo, but envision brown and pink bold plaid. I know you are jealous.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Aug 22, 2011 - 08:43pm PT
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAA! Snort! Good one!
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Gene
climber
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Aug 22, 2011 - 08:53pm PT
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There is a rather hilarious story on how I ended up with those pants.....
Do tell.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Aug 22, 2011 - 09:24pm PT
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Just for the ST record: Cragman shooting the bear is good with me.
I would have likely used my 12 gauge pump-shotgun, rather than my 357 Magnum pistol.
Decisions, decisions.
As for those that call it a "little bear??" The dead bear looks bigger than Cragman to me.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Aug 22, 2011 - 09:25pm PT
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Cragman,
You did what you thought was right. It is not your first time to the rodeo.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 22, 2011 - 09:42pm PT
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Wow, nice shooting Tex.
My words exactly! 9mm? That's impressive! I was out fishing all weekend up at Almanor and got to do some shooting, .45 and all, and the 9mm round is quick but substantially small.
I was shooting my .45 into the water at about 30 degrees and the rounds were skipping on the lake! Only one skip, but it was weird.
Anyway, glad you took care of things, Dean.
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