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Mighty Hiker
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Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 12, 2010 - 04:54pm PT
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Maybe Klimmer and his inept friends (alter-egos?) are like FatTrad - really just a false flag operation, to divert us from what's really happening. At least Fatty doesn't take himself too seriously - the clown prince of SuperTopo. Probably working undercover for the DNC.
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nature
climber
Whereverland....
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Oct 12, 2010 - 04:58pm PT
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Wonder = Klimmer?
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Oct 12, 2010 - 04:59pm PT
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Klimmer is delusional enough to think that the government is super-evil and super-conspiratorial, orchestrating 9/11, meeting, conspiring with "fallen angel" demonic aliens, committing mass genocide of it's own people by mass-spraying poison from aircraft to reduce the word population back to 500 million, practicing mind control and disinformation on a massive scale, BUT he is so special that they can't touch him.
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Oct 12, 2010 - 06:08pm PT
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Wonder = Klimmer?
No nature. Here is Wonder trying to get his point across.
Now here is Kilmmer trying to get his point across.
Credit: "Fallen Angel" the movie
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jeff_m
climber
somewhere fairly insignificant
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Oct 12, 2010 - 06:18pm PT
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At least we can see both of Klimmer's hands...
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2010 - 07:32pm PT
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jeff_M,
Thanks for posting.
"The others",
Hey, once again ST peanut gallery, it isn't about me guys. I know you desperately want it to be -- but it isn't.
The question isn't, Does it happen all the time? No, one is saying that. It doesn't.
The question is, Do Chemtrails happen at all? Seems like the evidence says yes. They have the evidence, and they have been collecting it and presenting it. Contrails do not = Chemtrails.
Is it possible? Yes.
Do we have the technology to do this? Yes.
Has any Nation government ever done anything like this before? Yes. See the post on the UK.
Is there a historical record of the US government doing illegal stupid stuff on massive scales, that eventually gets exposed or figured out? Yes. So, the point is, our US government is more than willing and capable of doing stuff like this on massive scales. See the list I posted before. That is indisputable.
Are scientific organizations now talking about doing such a thing to combat global warming? Yes, see the video and the written record on the AAAS. They talked about doing just that, when they had a meeting here in San Diego. I propose when they are already talking about it publicly in the scientific community, then the US gov has already checked into it and is experimenting already.
When the DVD comes out later this month that I first posted about, I'll be watching it. I'm guessing you won't. Why? Because you all already know it all.
Get over yourselves.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Oct 12, 2010 - 07:37pm PT
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It's not a chemtrail, it's not a cloud--what is it?
Quick, get out of the way!
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golsen
Social climber
kennewick, wa
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Oct 12, 2010 - 07:42pm PT
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Klimmer,
chemtrails is such a 1950's technology...
All of the V-agents are persistent agents, meaning that these agents do not degrade or wash away easily and can therefore remain on clothes and other surfaces for long periods. In use, this allows the V-agents to be used to blanket terrain to guide or curtail the movement of enemy ground forces. The consistency of these agents is similar to oil; as a result, the contact hazard for V-agents is primarily - but not exclusively - dermal. VX was the only V-series agent that was fielded by the USA as a munition, consisting of rockets, artillery shells, airplane spray tanks and landmines
There used to be spray tanks designed to release VX nerve agent from Planes. All of those within the USA have been destroyed.
http://www.cma.army.mil/fndocumentviewer.aspx?DocID=003677713
I used to work where tha last one was destroyed. Rather nasty, VX is. 1 drop to kill someone.
Of course we have the technology look at Crop Dusters...
The real question is whether you believe in a secret attempt by the US Government to introduce this stuff into the Environment.
I work on some pretty high level government stuff, trust me (I work for the government) it aint happening...
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Bad Climber
climber
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Oct 12, 2010 - 11:18pm PT
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Great thread! The dynamic duo of Klimmer and Granite (fine stone for climbing, don't you know). Keep the awesome photos coming.
Klimmer: I fear for your students. Don't fall so easily for well-documented hearsay.
BAd
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Oct 13, 2010 - 12:43am PT
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trust me (I work for the government)
richard nixon's famous last words.
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Oct 13, 2010 - 04:18am PT
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Was richard nixon famous?
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
I've lost track...
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Oct 14, 2010 - 12:37pm PT
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Bob,
Have you heard anything about using jet fuel additives to modify upper atmosphere albedo as a global warming solution; or for other reasons?
I hope you are doing well,
Tom
Hi Tom
There have been a lot of suggestions as to fuel additives
A colleague has worked these…but I don’t know the status
I am not working additives, but AF has their own package they add to make JP8…and so it would not surprise me that some additives are being thought to eliminate contrails.
However, this also seems closely related to the dumping of SO2 into the upper atmosphere for engineered climate control…To me this is really Roulette…Fooling around with the upper atmosphere is really dangerous, as no one knows the implications or the long term affects on the Planet.
All in the name of doing nothing about the foreign oil base when we could do otherwise…Many of the North Sea countries are as is China in a BIG way.
Bob
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2010 - 01:01pm PT
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Tom,
Thanks for that insider email info. :-))
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Oct 14, 2010 - 01:17pm PT
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^^lame^^
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2010 - 12:17pm PT
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The URL above doesn't work, but this does:
http://www.lightw#tcher.com/chemtrails/playing_god.html
This is weird. Posted the correct url, then it automatically changes the a to #. You must copy the url paste into browser and then change the # to a.
Very strange. Who out there knows (a computer guru) why the url lightw#tcher is automatically changed to lightw#tcher?
I can't even type the word l-i-g-h-t-w-a-t-c-h-e-r, without it changing it automatically.
Very weird.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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i think it's a supertopo glitsch, klimmer. it often does that with certain combinations of the word "water", which is close to "watcher". go figure.
but--an interesting take on chemtrails, don't you think?
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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what i find interesting is that all the worldwide concern about the ozone hole seemed to disappear rather quickly about the time all the chemtrail activity picked up.
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