Tell Arnold to veto the new CA ammo law... (OT)

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Klimmer

Mountain climber

San Diego

Sep 26, 2009 - 11:53pm PT

Seems to me this is a 2nd admendment issue. I don't own a gun but we have the right to bear them. And I will fight for that right for those who do own them. Maybe one day I'll own one; I did qualify as expert in the US Army with the M14 and the Colt 45. But doesn't the 2nd admendment imply that your right to bear arms includes the ammo to go with it?

This indeed sounds like a bad law.

The peoples' right to bear arms is the only thing that can possibly help keep our US government from being completely facsist and turning into a police state. And then perhaps that won't even stop it.

Sounds like everyone needs to learn to load your own bullets and rounds. Time to set-up shop.

pyrrhonota

Trad climber

Davis, CA

Sep 26, 2009 - 11:53pm PT

I was saying do both.

Send that letter to your Congressmen and House Representative too! Just change the address and name on the letter, find their address here:

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt

mucci

Trad climber

The pitch of Bagalaar above you

Sep 27, 2009 - 03:34am PT

HK USP Compact- check
Beretta 96 INOX - check
Taurus 444 ultralight .44 Mag - check

500 rounds for each.

Making the call on monday.

I came from a conceal carry state.

Absurd to think they can limit my constitutional right to ammunition.

Start relocating some of your weapons, the hammer is coming.......

mucci

Trad climber

The pitch of Bagalaar above you

Sep 27, 2009 - 04:23am PT

Ruger Rocks!

I got a 7mm mag that loves to hit it's mark

Ditto on the ammo Roc, not much problem in the heartland!

couchmaster

climber

pdx

Sep 27, 2009 - 07:11am PT

Wishing you Californians well...all the damn crazy sh#t seems to start there.

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Sep 27, 2009 - 07:18am PT

Civilian Marksmanship Program

And this is something we should be spending federal tax money on? Sounds more like a states militia deal. Low on the priority list of circa 1903 programs that could and should be defunded, but still...

Ksolem

Trad climber

Monrovia, California

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2009 - 11:18am PT

Healyje,

CMP=In 1996 a federal law created the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) with the specific mission to promote firearms and marksmanship training for U.S. citizens with an emphasis on youth programs. This program provides firearms, most notably M1 Garands to affiliated CMP organizations. Additionally, it provides 22-caliber ammunition, air rifle pellets and BBs, which are suitable for youth firearms training and rifle marksmanship programs. AB962 would effectively end the transfer of ammuntion from CMP to various organizations that either take advantage or are eligible, such as Boy Scouts of America, Junior ROTC units, 4-H shooting sports clubs and many other California organizations.

Also they sell M1s and .22 trainers to shooters who qualify through their program, for pretty much top dollar prices. I haven't seen their books, but I'll try to find out if they cost us anything or not.

dirtbag

climber

Sep 27, 2009 - 11:33am PT

Whitman already lookslike an idiot. Another rich person who thinks having no experience in government is an asset (or bothering to vote). Yeah, the big bad CEO is going to come into town, slash regulation, and straighten things up. Worked for Arnie, huh?

The Legislature would eat her up in 20 seconds.

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Sep 27, 2009 - 11:40am PT

Does it outlaw lead shot too? I sure as f*#k hope so.
DMT

Lead shot for waterfowl hunting has been outlawed for years.
Lead bullets it the Condor sanctuary areas, likewise.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Sep 27, 2009 - 11:50am PT

I wonder if Weakwrist is good at making that "time out" hand signal,..LOL

Lets see, if we need to lock away anything that could kill somebody then what would we have left in the aisles,....uh,....

I've got it.
The aisles would have the bags of marshmallows.

pyrrhonota

Trad climber

Davis, CA

Sep 27, 2009 - 11:56am PT

No, you can choke on those

dirtbag

climber

Sep 27, 2009 - 12:21pm PT

It scares me when you agree with me Rokjox.

I might have to rethink this.

;-)

Ksolem

Trad climber

Monrovia, California

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2009 - 12:30pm PT

yeah it's amazing how fast a candidate can dive. Whitman's hit the dirt in like three days...

Wes - the only people this law will affect are responsible type folks who shoot for sport. Now maybe you don't like sport shooting. That's fine. But laws like this do no one any good.

The guy that's gonna shoot someone during the commission of a crime has all the ammo he needs. And I suggest the unintended consequence of this law will be to stimulate a black market in ammunition whereby criminals will both profit and be well supplied.

adam d

climber

closer to waves than rock

Sep 27, 2009 - 12:43pm PT

Have our legislators been listening to Chris Rock?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuX-nFmL0II&feature=related

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Sep 27, 2009 - 01:15pm PT

Turns out I've been committing suicide for a good many decades.

Thank goodness Weakwrist is there to save the day.
(if I show my ID can I die now?)

Ksolem

Trad climber

Monrovia, California

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2009 - 01:30pm PT

Wes,

One, guns are highly regulated. So is ammo. Many types of guns and ammo are entirely illegal to own or use.

Two, The black market will not be in ammo manufacturing. It will be in distribution.

Three, Where did the criminal get his ammo? Most likely from the same illegal source where he got his gun. Duh.

Gotta run. Off to The Needles for a week. Vote your convictions. I can respect that.