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Binks
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Sep 14, 2009 - 11:43am PT
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"The pain will not go away or be healed until we know the truth"
Bullsh#t, really. Thousands of people die every year in accidents great and small. If I had to "know the truth" about every dubious accident or incident I'd never get anything done. No need to know anything about it. No need to feel bent out of shape either. Time to move on.
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WBraun
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Sep 14, 2009 - 11:48am PT
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If klimmer's posts seem retarded to to the majority of the people posting to this thread then their responses are just as retarded as they provide absolutely nothing in return.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Sep 14, 2009 - 11:49am PT
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Klimmer-
If I get this right, you're telling us that God speaks in King James English?
What if I were reading the Bible in Hindi or Zulu with different letters on the same pages. What then?
Would I get a different message or no message?
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justthemaid
climber
Los Angeles
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Sep 14, 2009 - 11:57am PT
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I gave up conspiracy-theories the day I saw the video of the the guys who successfully recreated the "magic bullet" shot.
Always astounds me that people actually believe a government that can't agree about ANYTHING or organize ANYTHING down to the most basic levels could actually orchestrate a conspiracy.
Think about it. What's the motivation of these mystery official that evidently are able to wield total power and are magically able to get 1000's of peons to comply with their plot and never make a peep?
Takes way to much energy to think up an evil plot, and you put any two government officials (even secret, evil, conspirators) in a room together they'll get bogged down by the details till everyone gives up and decides it's way easier to just go back to good old- fashioned bribes and sex-scandals.
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fluffy
Trad climber
chainsaw city
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Sep 14, 2009 - 11:57am PT
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forget charlie sheen, he's a chump.
i haven't made up my mind on what happened on 911
there is a lot of missing information
i consider my curiosity and desire to learn what really happened on that day to be a pretty normal reaction from any sane, free-thinking individual.
in order to believe the 'official' story, one must accept that the laws of physics took a day off.
one must also accept that the normal safeguards we have developed to keep such a tragedy from occurring broke down in a systematic and spectacular failure. the mightiest nation in the world allowed such an attack from a few guys with boxcutters? where was the military response?
also, why the rush to remove evidence and finish the 'investigation' so quickly? ground zero should have been treated like a crime scene. maybe there's nothing more to it than the 'official story' but if so, why the veil of secrecy and refusal to consider all possibilities and evidence?
not everyone who wants the truth is some raving paranoid nut job. for a great many people, this just doesn't add up and that doesn't really work for us.
i'm not going out of my way to look for something to be paranoid about. its ok to look at such events with a healthy degree of skepticism and it is certainly not unpatriotic to do so.
don't we owe it to the victims? our children? our COUNTRY?
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justthemaid
climber
Los Angeles
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Sep 14, 2009 - 12:04pm PT
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Charlie Sheen...
Hit on me at a stoplight one time.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
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Sep 14, 2009 - 12:06pm PT
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Klimmer,
Thanks for posting. However, they're all too far gone. Except for Werner. The power of propaganda.
Arne
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 14, 2009 - 12:08pm PT
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Yes, the sheeple have been lead astray.
Only enlightened ones like you, Charlie Sheen, Buchanabble, and Klimmer see the light. Oh, and the book of revelations.
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 14, 2009 - 12:11pm PT
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Of course, we all know who is the mastermind of this evil plot, and the evil plot to depopulate the planet via swine flu vaccinations:
I think S.P.E.C.T.R.E. has a hand in it too.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
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Sep 14, 2009 - 12:14pm PT
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Looks like Hillary is holding up her measurement of Dirtbag's unit.
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 14, 2009 - 12:16pm PT
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You laugh robustly at my Johnson, but I laugh robustly at you.
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AM
climber
DLFA
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Sep 14, 2009 - 12:19pm PT
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Klimmer,
Thank you for attempting to spread the truth.
I'm shocked and disappointed that so much of our community here is so ignorant.
Go back to your day jobs sheep.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Sep 14, 2009 - 12:29pm PT
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The disappointment is that they are willingly ignorant.
When a great nation gets hijacked and led by lies and propaganda in a destructive direction that greatly benefits a very small number of people there is a massive need to know the truth. Opting to accept it as a fate accomplis and want to move on is a massive disservice to the victims, survivors and the nation as a whole. It sets the stage for a repeat.
Put it this way, if a building collapses because the contractor cheated safety requirements to increase profits and people died should we turn a blind eye to the truth and say what's done is done?
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Sep 14, 2009 - 12:42pm PT
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By the way I find this Bible Code stuff a lot of nonsense. If only for the ridiculousness of language translation. You can't even accurately translate songs from one modern language to another without loss of meaning, context and nuance. Let alone translate ancient language into one that didn't exist when the book was written.
When you know what you want to find you will find it where you want to.
On the other other hand I did an extensive analysis of the all time classic children's book "Everyone Poops" And it said "Joe Wilson is a tea bagging terrorist".
So maybe there is some truth to this decoding myth after all.
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OR
Trad climber
So.VT.
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Sep 14, 2009 - 01:14pm PT
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Good shit! Now back on your meds asap.
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pedge
Trad climber
SW
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Sep 14, 2009 - 01:16pm PT
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If you believe our government is capable of organizing and maintaining the secrecy of such a conspiracy it would be illogical to resist the will of that government. That government is operating more effectively and cohesively than any private organization. Any resistance to goals of an organization of these genius masterminds and their completely loyal and disciplined agents will already have been anticipated and factored into their calculations. Not only would resistance be futile, it would be unpatriotic. Its our government, composed of what must clearly be our best and brightest, and although you might not like some of the short term sacrifices that have to be made, clearly you will eventually agree with the necessity of the objectives they help us achieve. So, stop wining so much about the slaughter – you should be so lucky as to be chosen for that honor, it’s the most you may ever be able to contribute to the greater good.
Obey your corporate masters: consume, copulate, conform.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Sep 14, 2009 - 01:24pm PT
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I would be vastly curious to do a survey about how many of those who can not believe the capability of the government to pull off a 911 conspiracy also don't believe we went to the moon.
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Ray-J
Social climber
east L.A. vato...
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Sep 14, 2009 - 01:33pm PT
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Mighty hikers post is pretty damn funny. :)
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2009 - 01:40pm PT
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I'm not scared to tell the truth. I'm no physical threat. I'm a pacifist. I try now since I have returned to God to treat others as I would want to be treated, as Jesus said -- The Golden Rule.
But the truth does pierce dark souls. I've often said, if they kill me then you know it wasn't an accident. I don't believe in suicide. I'm careful as I can be even though I enjoy adventure sports. I love my wife, my kids, my family, and my friends, although my friends haven't seen much of me lately; I've been very busy.
Jesus said, the World hates me and my message, they will hate you also. Truth does that. It is a true Christain's cross to bear. But as I said it pierces the heart, and for some it enters in and changes them forever.
Bible Code is real, there is no doubt about it. Why only the Torah and the Old Testament in Hebrew? And why only the KJV in English? Perhaps it is a divine stamp of approval, not to say that other versions of the Bible and translations are not important and useful. They are. Many people cross-reference and compare for more understanding, and that is a good thing.
Is it possible with other religious texts? Like the Koran, or another? I don't know. Someone should look and see.
We are to live by the truth, and abide by the truth. Knowing the truth of 9-11 is important. The MIHOP crime of 9-11 has changed our world significantly, and not for the better. All of our freedoms are all at risk of being lost. I won't be silenced. I will fight as a pacifist. Some people obviously hate the truth. That is their own hang-up. The Apostle Paul, who was Saul, killed Christians before becoming one.
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malabarista
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Sep 14, 2009 - 01:57pm PT
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klimmer, sounds like you need to seek professional help
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