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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
way, WAY out there....(OMG)
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Jul 16, 2009 - 12:29am PT
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Dude, climb the Nose FOR facelift!
You KNOW Camp 6 will need it......CustomMade.
You get to Wall climb AND be the hero with all the trash.
Worth thinkin' about.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 16, 2009 - 12:47am PT
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One of the more amazing Threads with Accompanying Pics that I have seen on ST since joining up year and a half ago. Superb!
Pictures of some of the Granite Features are way outstanding!
Climbers can't really be trash-aholics....so why do they leave that gross debris....tired or poor planning ? Jess wondering, lynnie.
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Jul 16, 2009 - 12:53am PT
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Man alive. That one trench looked like an open latrine. Thatīs some serious work, there.
Hard to believe climbers being such pigs.
JL
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
way, WAY out there....(OMG)
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Jul 16, 2009 - 01:36am PT
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Climb up. Spend ALL day there, making & sending "packages".
Have a ground crew to receive. Easy.
Summit & hike down. WooHoo!
Camp 6 has been excavated before. Ask Conn(spelling) about that.
They'll do it again.
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Jul 16, 2009 - 01:47am PT
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Great report Eric. I really like the idea of a more thorough FaceLift NoseWipe. If I could, I'd definitely brandish the hanky for that one.
-JelloDislikesDirtyNoses
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Neil Young land
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Jul 16, 2009 - 01:49am PT
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thanks for the tr. wouldn't it be nice if people stopped and thought about the impact we have on everything we do
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jul 16, 2009 - 02:03am PT
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el cap pics eat your heart out, that was fantastic!
they need a chopper with a water nozzle,
like for pg$e towers and sh#t.
or lower down a steam cleaner, i wouldn't go near that without a full syringe of
gamaglobulin.(sp)
"Injections
Gamma globulin injections are usually given in an attempt to temporarily boost a patient's immunity against disease. Injections are most commonly used on patients who have been exposed to hepatitis A or measles, or to make a kidney donor and recipient compatible regardless of blood type of tissue match. Injections are also used to boost immunity in patients who cannot produce gamma globulins naturally because of an immune deficiency, such as X-linked agammaglobulinemia and hyper IgM syndrome. Such injections are less common in modern medical practice than they were previously, and injections of gamma globulin previously recommended for travelers have largely been replaced by the use of hepatitis A vaccine.
Gamma globulin infusions are also used to treat immunological diseases, such as idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura (ITP), a disease in which the platelets are being attacked by antibodies, leading to seriously low platelet counts. Gamma globulin apparently causes the spleen to ignore the antibody-tagged platelets, thus allowing them to survive and function.
Gamma globulin injections also provide substantial benefit to many suffering from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, also known as Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome; Myalgic Encephalitis; Chronic Epsteinn-Barr; Chronic Mono.
Another theory on how gamma globulin administration works in autoimmune disease is by overloading the mechanisms which degrade gamma globulins. Overloading the degradation mechanism causes the harmful gamma globulins to have a much shorter halflife in sera."
is everybody down with that?
quiz this friday...
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hooblie
climber
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Jul 16, 2009 - 02:10am PT
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thankyou, let's hope it's the end of having G-men moving our shame around on our precious. i can't muster an inch of slack, my disdain is absolute. we have ways of building consensus, have we not?
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JesseM
Social climber
Yosemite
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Jul 16, 2009 - 12:48pm PT
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Nice work Eric on the TR!
And nice work Alex and Eric on both cruising the Nose and "wiping" it as you go! At this point it looks like Camp 6 still has some boogers to be picked.
Surprisingly, from the looks of the photos, there appears to be less trash in the crack than before the previous two Nosewipes. This means that our (almost) yearly efforts are having a sustainable effect, and climbers are adding less trash to the pile than what they are taking out.
On the other hand the alarming, gross, unbelieveable poo droppings are fresh from this spring/summer. WTF!! Could a lurker on this Forum be responsible for adding to this disgusting example of humans at their worst?? I hope not, but if you're out there shame, shame, you climbed the Nose in poor, poopy style. This route, referred to as the "greatest rock climb in the world" by many, deserves our greatest efforts to respect and honor the history and tradition that it represents.
I've heard the many calls for us (the NPS) to fill the Camp 6 crack in with concrete, rocks from the top of El Cap, a wire mesh barrier covering the crack, etc, etc. At first this sounds like a great idea. However, these options would require quite an involved effort, potentially a safety hazard, and draw more attention to the impacts of climbing to the non-climbing public. In addition the Nose is Designated Wilderness and we can't add structures/installments without a arduous review process determining if that is the minimum level of management input for the area. (Please don't mention, "Than why do we allow the Half Dome cables, or bolts for that matter?")
If every climber who climbed the Nose brought gloves, and trash bags and pulled a few pieces of garbage out with them as they passed through Camp 6, the bivy could be cleaned up in a few seasons. (True we would have to go down with extended litter sticks to get to the bottum.) I stil believe that we can eventually just clean Camp 6 close to 100%, and then raise the peer pressure to be Leave no Trace on Big Walls to the extent of public shame for folks who violate the sacred trust of El Capitan.
My 3.5 cents,
Jesse McGahey
Yosemite Climbing Ranger
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Jul 16, 2009 - 01:00pm PT
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Nice work guys!
Dunno why, but the NPS/ranger climbing shirt makes me laugh.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jul 16, 2009 - 01:27pm PT
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wow, brutal.
nice effort.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Jul 16, 2009 - 01:52pm PT
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Good work if you can get it?
Maybe for the olfactorily challenged.
I guess I'll have to add a chapter to my
forthcoming book, "America, Land of the Free, Home of the Hypocrites". Would that chapter be "Love it or Leave it"?
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PhilG
Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
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Jul 16, 2009 - 01:53pm PT
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Great photos and excellent trip report.
Thanks so much for your work cleaning up that beautiful and wonderful climb.
We need more climbers like you guys!
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elcap-pics
climber
Crestline CA
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Jul 16, 2009 - 04:23pm PT
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Thanks for your great report and service to the Captain.. really appreciated!!
Tom
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Jul 16, 2009 - 04:29pm PT
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Thank you for your outstanding effort, a selfless act that benefits many. You set a standard that many will carry with them while upon the great walls.
Looks like you squeezed some fun out of it!
Cheers
Mucci
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 16, 2009 - 04:32pm PT
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Good work!
Jesse - you mention extender litter sticks. Is there such a thing that's commercially available? There's a crack in a ledge just below the south summit of the Chief - actually the top of the Squamish Buttress - that hikers have filled with water bottles. A fairly wide crack, maybe 15 cm, and nearly straight in. Most of what's visible is bottles, but they're well out of reach of a regular litter stick. They're nearly 2 m down. Either a long litter stick, or a stick + noose arrangement, seem needed.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Jul 16, 2009 - 05:38pm PT
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why not attach a litter stick to an extendable painter's stick? Seems easy enough.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jul 16, 2009 - 08:31pm PT
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that poop is gonna exfoliate the captain, just like the bathroom on top of glacier.
same with the king cobra piss.
why not put a granite colored porta poty up there, and hire chongo to clean it out?
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BriGuy
Trad climber
SL,UT
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Jul 16, 2009 - 11:01pm PT
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Wow! Props to Alex and Eric,(and the NPS), for the effort. Your service is greatly appreciated. These guys (NPS climbing rangers) deserve mad respect. Thanks for your dedication.
How many LBS of buggers did you clean from The Nose?
Brian
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