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mike a.
Sport climber
ca
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Dec 24, 2013 - 11:58pm PT
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gate like with the mossy hook, and $5 cheeper then the fixe draco and $20.65 cheeper then the dmm captive eye, but i am sure all you arm chair climbers here on super taco will have something to whine about on this set up like, you should be able to clip off the anchor and feed the rope through the anchor and retie in, or blah blah blah, or with 30 kn hold a factor 5 fall, blah blah blah or webbing is way cheeper blah blah blah :-) happy climbing/ happy holidays mike a.
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tr4
climber
Tuolumne Meadows, Ca
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Dec 25, 2013 - 04:52am PT
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Happy to help out anyone repairing or developing routes and areas
Thanks Ted
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Hate em. They teach people to be stupid and lazy and it is a large mass of metal that is pretty high visual impact. this is the anchor that I use the most.
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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So, like why are they called 'Mussy Hooks' anyway?
Has one ever wore-out and been replaced?
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Tradman, good to see that I'm not the only one who finds them to be unsightly.
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Tony Puppo
climber
Bishop
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Do they ever wear out? Well maybe every now and then ;-)
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Ugly and teach stupidity.....
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Tony Puppo,
Thanks for sharing the picture of how much one of those Mussy Hooks can be worn down by use.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Somebody needs to design a low friction bushing setup for high grit areas like the Owens River Gorge that eat steel up producing the kind of wear that is evident in Tony's photo.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Sorry.. I'm a hater.
Love ya Russ
Just hate the mussys.
Reasons: Bulky, ugly, awkward to clip into, invariably installed so that they are laying in some way that makes them a pain to deal with. The only time they seem to work well is if they are free-hanging.. yet, for some reason people insist on installing them weirdly.
Friends don't let friends install mussys.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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If you people actually used your own gear on anchors instead of TRing sh#t to death and lowering through the "chains" there would be no need for Mussy Hooks.
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Rankin
Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
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^ The truth. I love Mussy Hooks, but I I don't think the humid conditions here would be very kind to them.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Russ +1
That Mussy hook pictured above looks like it's been used to top rope thousands of times.
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Tfish
Trad climber
La Crescenta, CA
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I thought the gates/springs broke on the mussys before they wore down like that.
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euro-brief-guy
Boulder climber
Auburn, ca
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Simple, fast and built to last - not pretty but effective. I've been sold on 'em since the beginning.
In the time it took that pictured mussy to wear out I bet you would have replaced a half dozen of any other anchor out there.
It's not the perfect solution....just the best one out there for the job.
I'm getting them in circulation at the Auburn quarry as fast as I can.
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mike a.
Sport climber
ca
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i am a old school climber, i started climbing with bill price who i have known him since kindergarten, and back then there were no friends or bd camlots, nor harness's no gri-gri's, it was hip belay, or sticked plate, hex's, stoppers, tie in the rope a couple raps around the waist with a bowlen, hand drill 1/4 bolts, so would any have you who climb now use old school style to climb today??? no is the answer!!! that is like saying i want to buy a new car with no air bags or fuel injection, or abs nor ac or awesome sound system, if new stuff makes climbing safer and convenient why would you not use it?, if youall want to climb old style climbing then by all means do so, and if there are too many bolts and mussy hooks on the route don't use them , but remember this, jesus would clip that bolt :-) happy climbing mike a.
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Brad Johnson
climber
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"Agree. The ones with the cotter pins showing up in the Tahoe area are scary. I would be happy to buy some from Fish and then donate them for people putting up routes in the Emeralds and Bowman.
Erik"
OK Erik, here's your chance. We're putting up routes at the Emeralds. It would be great if someone would chip in for hardware. Lots of new routes equals lots of money invested. PM me if you're for real.
It's our intent to replace the pin style musseys. Actually intended to do it this last summer but got side tracked putting up new routes. We'll replace them in the early spring. Sorry if it freaked anybody out.
As a side note, many of the newer routes don't have anchor chain so bring webbing until we get that sorted out.
Brad and John
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Dickly
Social climber
KY
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if it wasnt for rusty, salt covered 1/8" cotter pins the wheels on your car would fall off while driving.
when you get all of those hooks replaced in Tahoe I'll take the old ones
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