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Crimpergirl
Social climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Mar 24, 2009 - 11:50pm PT
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Open Crane Flats for the insomniacs. Leave the normal campground to those of us that go to bed early (or at least go to bed at all).
I don't want to go to Crane Flats! It's pretty, but dang, it's way out there.
Thinking Camp Four may be a tamer place... :)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Mar 25, 2009 - 12:34am PT
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Barbarian, well what else can you do at 3am if they won't let yo play the tambourine ? Peace and Fun...lots of it. lrl
EDIT: Are we thus banned from Yellow Pine? It was my first ever chance....I promise I'll do Better. Really !
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2009 - 01:04am PT
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It's really up to Ken and the YCA, and what works best in terms of getting people to the Valley to help at the FaceLift, and have fun. We have to help however we can - the FaceLift is a place and time where responsible behaviour needs to be encouraged wherever we are and whatever we do.
Yellow Pines is a great spot for a group, with perhaps a bit more flexibility than other sites. It's a privilege to stay at YP, but is a place that we share, and is in the Valley. It may be that it would be best for all if those who want to stay up late and make noise camp somewhere a bit more out of the way. We could visit them each morning with coffee, and perhaps a modest trumpet or drum solo to get them moving.
ps Camp 4 usually settles down by about midnight. Not always - the rangers seem to have to visit about one night a week.
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Bay Area
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Mar 25, 2009 - 01:39am PT
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I am saving this spot
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Mar 25, 2009 - 01:46am PT
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Really, I helped, I was responsible. I noted that when Casey and Papajoto called it a night it was good for me too also. They were always first ones up and going climbing....as well as fishfinder. 19 pitches on the West Face of El Cap. They missed the big party...but bet their memories are better.
I love YP cause the great beach and also bike access to the Village. What else can I say. I plead my case and rest on the mercy of the court. :D Peace Always, Lynne
EDIT: who stayed up so late and gave us the bad rap :)
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Place or Another
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Mar 25, 2009 - 03:38am PT
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What? We weren't THAT loud:
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jstan
climber
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Mar 25, 2009 - 11:53am PT
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If we are unable to avoid infringing upon the rights of others
we may not be welcome at Ken's.
Crane flat would give us an excellent shot at clean up on Route 120. We could be moving at dawn.
Need to travel in pairs though. Mountain lions. We were being stalked there last year.
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Mar 25, 2009 - 12:45pm PT
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Andy sure had a great mixed bag of tunes.
Maybe we need armed guards at YP . Or a check in . The host shouldnt have to be responsible for us.
It really doesnt matter where we are . We are there to clean the place up.
I was surprised that some treated the mission as secondary .
Ken runs around like a madman all week , and puts in way more time than anyone.
He really takes care of everyone, getting great sponsers, booking talent, bringing firewood, getting shower passes , etc. etc.
We need to unite as a more solid group to support him.
Thanks Ken for creating some unforgettable moments .
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Barbarian
Trad climber
stealth camping and hiding from the man
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Mar 25, 2009 - 01:37pm PT
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Big cats were no problem, Jeff. You and I are old and tough...they want tender, fresh meat.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Mar 25, 2009 - 02:19pm PT
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NO NATURE NO SUSHI
??????????????????????????????????
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Mar 25, 2009 - 03:34pm PT
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I'll be there, a little slower though.
See you there Fish Finder!!!
LOL
In 6 months!!!
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jstan
climber
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Mar 25, 2009 - 03:38pm PT
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Jeff:
The day before Jingy and I were working that area getting pretty tired I must admit. The cats tend to go for animals that seem in distress. The next day a park person drove me back to get the bags and we ran into another couple picking them up. The guy blurted out suddenly, "What's that?! I saw something up on the bank! The fellow who drove me up there said, "Yes. We know there are mountain lions living up here on this ridge. You folks had best travel close together."
Jingy and I had had an adventure without even knowing about it
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Mar 25, 2009 - 03:41pm PT
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mmmmm..... MeatFest.
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Mar 25, 2009 - 03:54pm PT
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" Jingy and I had had an adventure without even knowing about it "
TMI
Hey jstan... werent you and jingy booth camped in the same spot in C4?
ha ha ha LOL
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2009 - 04:41pm PT
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It would certainly add class to the event if jstan were to serendade us every morning with a bagpipe solo. Reveille, if you like.
Although knowing jstan, if we camp at Crane Flat, he'll be up and gone by daybreak, foraging for treasures. He's not the meatiest of persons, and especially if he's sushi-free, should be safe from cougars and such. The bagpipes will give them fair warning, too.
Anyway, as fish finder mentioned, our main job is to be there and to help, and also have fun. Ken is thorough about planning, and no doubt he and the NPS are working out something that's practicable. I'd guess, though, that if some or all of us are in YP, we'll have to be much more diligent about managing ourselves. (Crane Flat, too - although there may be fewer other campers there.) That's our job - not Ken's, or the NPS'. We need to ensure that we're responsible and pro-active about the campsite and what we do there, and considerate of others. If that means that some then have to behave differently, or decide it's not their cup of tea, so be it.
Wherever we are, if we're in a group campsite, it seems a reasonably safe guess that we'll have to be more attentive about registration, site management (noise, garbage, parking, curfew, etc), and generally self-policing.
Doug (nature) has nobly done sushi for both of the last two FaceLifts, a truly magnificent effort. It really does add a special aura for the event. However, he's going to give it a pass this year - it's a huge effort, and he's now living farther away, takes more time. So if we're doing group camping, we may have to do potlucks or BBQs.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Mar 25, 2009 - 07:00pm PT
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What a difference 6 months make. Thanks to yo all I can now put up a tent, I know that cots are prehistoric, I have thoroughly enducated myself about coolers and bears and trash.
I have begun my Bocce Ball training regime. :D and Jillie, I have a tambourine all my own. Joyfully looking forward. lynne
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Mar 25, 2009 - 07:09pm PT
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I'll help Jeff, I know how to bbq,,,,smiles, lynnie
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Mar 25, 2009 - 08:31pm PT
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A blatant advertizement......
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 25, 2009 - 10:12pm PT
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If that means that some then have to behave differently, or decide it's not their cup of tea, so be it.
If you're suggesting segregating 'noisy' people into other sites subject to the same rules because you wanna crash early, I'm out!!! (no big loss, I know).
The nights we were awake till 2am weren't that noisy, in fact, the Wells Fargo idiots prolly couldn't even hear us.
I attend the event to hang with friends and have a good time, not to pick up garbage! I consider the work a price to pay for Ken's hospitality.
That makes me one of the few I suppose that are willing to say they show up for the fun, not the diaper grabbing.
If I'm going to be told when to go to bed and be quiet, well, I'll f*#king go somewhere else. Have fun.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Mar 25, 2009 - 10:15pm PT
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Meatfest!!!???
How do you like your bear?
Dry rub or wet mop?
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