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Jingy
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Flatland, Ca
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Mar 13, 2009 - 03:19pm PT
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yah.. he's been in office how long now? and we're casting aspersions now?
... and with the pace of government (that we all should know can be very slow in process)....
I think someone needs to read a book, or turn off the TV in order to extend the attention span just a bit....
good luck
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jstan
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Mar 13, 2009 - 03:39pm PT
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Do I sense a faint whif of skepticism here?
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Mar 13, 2009 - 05:01pm PT
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Yippee, a right-wing circle jerk.
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nature
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Tucson, AZ
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Mar 13, 2009 - 07:41pm PT
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Patrick.... It just turned into a right-winged cho-cho-train.
I'd hate to be the kaboose.
though I guess the tell-tale sign is he's got all the right-wingers panties all up in a bunch so he must be doing a good job.
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just passing thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 13, 2009 - 07:45pm PT
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Here's your caboose:
"The cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and states of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on ... If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we'd see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies."
 Barack Obama, Speech in the U.S. Senate, March 13, 2006
http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/
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graniteclimber
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Nowhere
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Mar 13, 2009 - 07:53pm PT
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"net presidential approval rating -- which is calculated by subtracting the number who strongly disapprove from the number who strongly approve"
Look at how the number was caculated. What it mainly means is that the Republicans who dislike Obama hate him more than did the Democrats who disliked Bush.
The Republicans who hate Obama, don't hate him for anything Obama has done as President, but rather for who he is. And a significant lunatic fringe (many but not all of whom are Republicans) especially hate Obama because he is black. It really won't matter how smart he is or what he does or says, they'll still hate him.
Then there are the far-left liberals who believed McCain's lies about Obama being a radical, even though Obama was campaigning as a moderate. Now he is acting as a moderate but they feel betrayed.
Also don't forget that Clinton left Bush an economy in much better shape then the economy Bush left Obama with.
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graniteclimber
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Nowhere
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Mar 13, 2009 - 07:57pm PT
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"I can't believe how he said a whole bunch of things and then turned around and did precisely the opposite."
You didn't like him and you didn't vote for him, so it's not surprising you disagree with him. But he's mostly doing just what he said he would do. and now you still don't like him.
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just passing thru
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 13, 2009 - 08:01pm PT
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"especially hate Obama because he is black."
-GC
You don't know sh#t.
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graniteclimber
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Nowhere
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:04pm PT
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Let's put this thread in its proper context.
Read what Ed Rollins wrote only a week ago. Ed Rollins was political director for Ronald Reagen and national chairman of Huckabee's campaign.
The battle to be the "de facto leader" of this party is akin to the question of who wants to steer the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. Who represents the party or its values is not relevant when only 26 percent of voters have a positive impression of the party at all and only 7 percent very positive, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey.
The Democratic Party is the reverse, with 49 percent positive. When 60 percent of the country approves of the job President Obama is doing, every Republican leader is going backward.
Republicans are not relevant. We just lost two back-to-back elections (2006 and 2008), and obviously, what we are selling, the voters aren't buying. In the midst of the most severe economic crisis in my lifetime, we have a president who is taking the country on a dramatic sea change. This is what he said he would do and he is doing it. And where are Republicans? Right now we don't have the alternative ideas, a message or, more important, the messenger.
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dirtbag
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:05pm PT
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GC is spot on.
I spent last weekend with my SO's family, who spent the time bashing dems. Card carrying Repubs, all of them. I of course kept quiet as they repeatedly referred to Obama as the colored guy.
I don't think they are so unusual.
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graniteclimber
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Nowhere
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:05pm PT
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How did the Republican Party go from being the Party of Lincoln to the Party of Limbaugh?
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just passing thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 13, 2009 - 08:08pm PT
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Ha Ha
Keep talking about Limbaugh and racist Republicans all you want
This is what people are talking about:
Broken promise No. 1: Sunlight Before Signing
Broken promise No. 2: Capital gains tax elimination
Broken promise No. 3: New American jobs tax credit
Broken promise No. 4: Hiatus on 401(k) penalties
Broken promise No. 5: 'No jobs for lobbyists'
Broken promise No. 6: Earmark reform
Broken promise No. 7: Bring troops home in 16 months
Broken promise No. 8: Sign Freedom of Choice Act
Broken promise No. 9: Transparency
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P.Kingsbury
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the jeep
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:14pm PT
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P.Kingsbury
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the jeep
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:22pm PT
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:41pm PT
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Lois, you were correct about having to put people on suicide watch and add prozac to the drinking water after the election, but for the wrong reasons! http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=673558&msg=674126#msg674126
It's going to be a very long eight years for the Limbaugh Republicans. I hate to admit it but all the whining is music to my ears.
If you think that Republicans are unhappy now, just wait until we're two or three years into Obama's first term.
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P.Kingsbury
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the jeep
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:42pm PT
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when i want my politics i goto politards.com....way better
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:44pm PT
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JPT, in my profession, we call your pathology passive aggressive.
You don't mind lying, and you don't respond when people call you on it.
You have your list, and it is NOT what people are talking about. The ECONOMY is what people are talking about.
The ECONOMY, which was not a problem during most of the campaign when Obama laid out his positions.
I understand that you want to have him stand aside from dealing with the ECONOMY, which he inherited from your hero, and try to do all the things that he said that he would try to do, instantaneously.
But, unlike the 7 minutes when Bush could not change directions, with the country under attack, Obama is not just sitting there. He is doing something, everyday. People see that, and that is why they are talking about the ECONOMY, and it is why his approval rating is so high in this time of trouble. He is seen to be leading, and not sitting there while planes hit buildings.
You say that he has broken a promise, when he has not signed a bill that has not been presented to him by Congress? You call that broken? I know that they were talking about you when they said: "it's the ECONOMY, stupid."
LEB, you NEVER intended to give Obama an honest chance..... you SAID he would be a disaster, and now you say he is a disaster, without providing any specifics. He appears to be doing exactly what he said he would do, in the confines of the Bush Recession. go back to your kitchen, where Rush thinks you belong, when you aren't writing scrips for his narcotics.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:44pm PT
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Come on Skipt. Posting graphics is fun.
Here's one you might like back from a few months ago when it was the Dem's turn to whine. It's better then the one I just posted.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mar 13, 2009 - 08:48pm PT
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Just keep following your messiah!
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