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nature

climber

Tucson, AZ

Feb 9, 2009 - 11:48am PT

um.... wow!

that looks like so much fun!

I need at road trip or something...

TrundleBum

Trad climber

Las Vegas

Feb 9, 2009 - 01:23pm PT

I went into the cirque with the 'Slev in Aug. 81 (maybe 82?)

I had a funny trailside encounter on the hike in.
We were about half way to the pass when this good sized black dog came ambling down the trail. The dog look oddly familiar but I couldn't place'm. The dog walked past me, I said hello and it took a moment to give me a 'sniff test' and amble on. It seemed odd, but assuming that the master was not far behind we continued up the trail.
Sure enough the master was only a few minutes behind.
Down the trail comes Peter Cole whom I knew from New England ice climbing.
So I did know the dog, it was Peter's dog named 'Ace. I did not recognize 'Ace as it seemed so out of context to bump into him in the middle of the Wind River when the last time I saw him was three years prior when he was waiting for Peter in the bottom of Huntington's on Mt Washtub in N.H.

Inner City

Trad climber

East Bay

Feb 9, 2009 - 02:58pm PT

I've only been to the cirque in the Winds. I'm hoping for a return trip to the range this summer. Any other areas I should go to? Sacagawea perhaps?

mcreel

climber

Barcelona, Spain

Feb 10, 2009 - 04:13am PT

Titcomb Lakes is a hump to get into, but a great area once you're there. The last time I was there, summer of '86, the horse packers had churned the trail into a chunky stew of mud and sh#t that was about a foot deep. 20 miles of that will warm you up for Sacajawea!

adam d

climber

Feb 10, 2009 - 04:35am PT

Titcomb is a hump? it's no more than one day from Elkhart Park on one of the biggest trails in the range. It is worth it though, as you say.
But the skeeters...argh. life through a headnet can be a little rough. the first few days aren't so bad.

Wack

climber

Dazevue

Feb 10, 2009 - 08:55am PT

In '85 to insure that the fickle weather gods didn't doom the 4 of us to failure or push us into epics we cheated and hired the Allen Brothers to pack our gear into the Cirque for a 2 week trip . No skimpy freeze dried mystery meals this time. Harding would have approved of our base camp, 4 cases of beer, 4 gallons of box wine and steaks. The guys we passed on the way in had been tent bound for a week waiting for the weather to break, it didn't. We acclimated for 3 days then did Wolfs Head. Third classing the Sidewalk got us psyched for Pingora.

Pingora's wilderness setting on the Divide, perfect rock and weather made topping out one of my best days on earth. We had 1 week of perfect weather and were out of booze. The decision was made to bail early and do Castleton on the way to the Valley.

pip the dog

Mountain climber

the outer bitterroots

Feb 13, 2009 - 02:03am PT

hey tarbuster,

is the Sue Wint in your photo the one who (at least at one time) lived in boulder? studied as a physical therapist. was dating charlie fowler back when i knew her (like 85/86).

if so i once shared a house with her and a large crew of fellow dirtbags in boulder. how many climbing sue wints can there be? looks kinda familiar -- if that photo was taken some years later than when i saw her last (circa 86).

just wondering...

^,,^

survival

Big Wall climber

A Token of My Extreme

Feb 13, 2009 - 02:14am PT

Amazing pics!

On the list-check.

Tarbuster

climber

right here, right now

Feb 13, 2009 - 12:02pm PT

Yes Pip,
There is only one Sue Wint.
1986 ... was Keith Gotschall in that household by any chance?

scuffy b

climber

just below the San Andreas

Feb 13, 2009 - 02:11pm PT

Just gotta say, Pip...

It feels good to see your Mark.

hobo_dan

Social climber

Minnesota

Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2009 - 02:19pm PT

How do you place a photo on ST- I scanned some shots and now I'd like to share them. I have a great picture of me standing an old VW bug that was used for target practice onthe way to Big Sandy opening- I need to learn how to enter it.
murf

Slabby D

Trad climber

B'ham WA

Feb 13, 2009 - 02:31pm PT

Haystack from the Cirque

pip the dog

Mountain climber

the outer bitterroots

Feb 13, 2009 - 04:15pm PT

tarbuster,

wow, small world. increasingly teeny.

as for your question, i don't recall Keith being there. but as i am down to like 3 brain cells (Manny, Moe, & Jack) in my dotage, who knows. and that household had a large and forever changing cast of characters. you never knew who you would run into in the morning as you slithered down to the kitchen in your underpants for that first caffiene fix.

that and after just a few months there i headed off to kemmerer with my then sweetie -- and sue's then bestus buddy -- leslie gordon. also a most excellent soul and now also a PT.

give my best to sue if you are still in touch (from leslie's then beau dogboy, aka michael). i wonder where she is today (she could take her excellent PT package anywhere she wants).

sue fascinated me during my time near her in her ability to switch between very focused very smart person (which she was/is) and complete ditz, in a heartbeat. i suspect the very smart side was always in the driver seat, and that the ditz mode was something she would switch on simply to entertain and astound us. it was entertaining. her "doggie confusion trick" with Bob her then dog... well, you'd have to see it to believe it. mere words could not capture it. well, at least not my words.

i remember her, not once but twice, showing up with one of those big handles from the gas pumps sticking out of the gas tank on her car. apparently, such hoses/handles have a breakaway mode, i suspect one that doesn't leave gas hosing out all over the place. i do recall following the newspaper closely after these "events" looking for word of like a city block being incinerated. never saw word of it.

well, as you said "There is only one Sue Wint."

thanks for the reply,

^,,^

pip the dog

Mountain climber

the outer bitterroots

Feb 13, 2009 - 05:16pm PT

scuffy b,

what mark would i know you by, from back in the day on that other venue.

i've lurked here enough to discern that MH2 is our brother andy, Matisse is our sister sue, and Dingus is of course the mighty dingus. the rest of the .wreck crew i am still trying to translate.

i joined the .wreck when it was already in it's death throes. and that worked for me, as the number of posts was managable and they endured (mostly) my 17 page posts on what appeared to be every topic but climbing. but to me, the nuts and bolt stuff about whether an alien size X was the same size as a tech friend size Y was not especially interesting.

important, yes, sure -- when you are strung way out and fading on some pitch and your new rock jewelry doesn't fit. but my experiences had led me think that the heart of what is best in climbing is not about the numbers (be they altitude or preceded by 5.x). i was thinking about, and writing about, something else. something closer (i believe) to the heart of it.

my transition to this venue has been slow. sure, i've lurked for years to read what my heroes, the 'big kids' were writing. but i never was compelled to write, as surely brother Jello doesn't need to hear my tips on climbing or my vision of philosophy. i didn't want to tie up the bandwidth and interfering with the good stuff from my many betters.

having now 'taken the plunge' into supertaco, i find myself overwhelmed by the sheer volume of threads and posts. that and how they all get chopped up into various threads. in my couple weeks here i've asked questions on a couple of threads, and it is everything my limited geek skills can do to find those threads again to see if someone was kind enough to answer.

there are questions i've asked, and yet for the life of me i cna't find the thread again to see if someone was nice enough to respond. it's driving me rather nuts (ok, more nuts).

that and i miss brother Guillume's posts on the .wreck. one of the reasons i rarely posted a TR there is that brother Guillume and i seem to have the same taste in climbs (i more than suspect he does them in better style). that and his photography skills are outstanding. and he writes TR better than i can -- even in what is for him a second (or third) language.

my skills with a camera are frankly lame, while his are clearly outstanding. i do try, and read all the tech stuff. but i believe one is either born with an eye for it, or not. put me in the 'not' column. ah, ok. asa the outstanding grandfather who raised me used to say 'know your weaknesses'. amen.

ok, that is like a thousand words. soon i will slide into 10,000 words - despite my best efforts. what did james joyce write? something like "what is bred in the bone can't fail me to fly." a polite and poetic way of saying 'sheesh, i am genetically wired to not shut up' i suspect my clan were simply born without the chromosome required for 'terse'. arghhh.

ok, enough. be well,

^,,^

scuffy b

climber

just below the San Andreas

Feb 13, 2009 - 05:45pm PT

Dog,

I'm replying after reading only the start of your post.
Don't worry, I'll go back and finish it.
I posted as Steve m on the wreck.
I didn't post all that much. It seemed somewhat clubby at that
time. Maybe ST would be that way to a newcomer. I hope not, but
I'm too close to tell.
I discovered the wreck when its demise was a subject much
discussed. Then less so, though there seemed to be an annual
hand-wringing, with fewer hands each year.
For a time reference, when I started lurking there, Inez was
still in Berkeley, before San Diego, before her disappearance.

sm

EDIT

"my transition to this venue has been slow. sure, i've lurked for years to read what my heroes, the 'big kids' were writing. but i never was compelled to write, as surely brother Jello doesn't need to hear my tips on climbing or my vision of philosophy. i didn't want to tie up the bandwidth and interfering with the good stuff from my many betters."

I'm glad you've overcome your reluctance. By now the "big kids"
and their fans and detractors have come to realize that what
matters is not the moves, the views or the numbers, but the
people.

Yes, we lost out when Guillaume moved back to Europe.

"tying up bandwidth" is like the boogeyman to me. That and
thread drift. It doesn't seem to hurt any to ignore those that
complain.

Maybe you could keep a file of your own posts (many do all their
writing in a program like Word) so you can find the right key
words for searching out your questions.

pip the dog

Mountain climber

the outer bitterroots

Feb 13, 2009 - 08:38pm PT

brother scuffy wrote, in part:

>Maybe you could keep a file of your own posts (many do all
>their writing in a program like Word) so you can find the
>right keywords for searching out your questions.

good advice, but as this would require actual big boy in big boy pants personal management skills (and some measure of associated geek skills) -- i'm still quite fooked. for my people^,,^ seem to lack the chromosome required for that trick (among others).

ah, "It's evolution, baby"
(from my post on What You Are Listenening To, Now).

canis fidelis est,

^,,^