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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 14, 2008 - 09:38pm PT
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Hormel can not keep up with Spam production.
Ammunition prices are spikeing.
I think I'll plow under the back yard, plant corn and buy some chickens and a milk goat.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 14, 2008 - 10:13pm PT
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"That remark of yours is very telling and it "tells" much more about you than me."
This remark tells me that you are tragically predictable.
Untwist your panties, sweetheart. My remark was merely a satirical interjection on the sentence I quoted.
Thanks for the lesson on 'hate'. I was never quite clear on that.
edit:
"I simply don't see this kind of emotion and rhetoric coming from the GOP"
I'm speechless.
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Jeremy Handren
climber
NV
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Nov 14, 2008 - 10:15pm PT
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HDDJ said,
"LEB I realize that you haven't yet and probably will never get this, but the intolerance is mainly to disinterest in facts and information, not "divergent viewpoints.""
Its funny, and so typical that LEB chooses to ignore this basic truth.
Its not LEB viewpoints that I find offensive, its her intellectually dishonest arguments. In fact,when it comes to opposing viewpoints the exact opposite is the case, I really enjoy arguing with a smart conservative.....republagumbies like LEB...not so much.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 14, 2008 - 10:22pm PT
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The "left" has been a most intolerant bunch
Most inclined to mob mentality,
from Robespierre to Mao they have been the functionaries of mass murder.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 14, 2008 - 10:25pm PT
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Hey Jerry,
Did you happen bump into Shimberg and crew this past week? He was just in your town with Tuthill and Hammond.
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Fletcher
Trad climber
Max V02
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Nov 14, 2008 - 10:31pm PT
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I think the Taco is fairly tolerant providing you understand how it is to be sketched out above mank.
This is one of the best lines I have ever read on the Taco. So true!
Fletch
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Boise
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Nov 14, 2008 - 10:34pm PT
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Mike has a real point here......Isn't tolerance of weirdness kinda what we're ALL about?
We're weird. No sweat.
You're weird, too? Sweet!
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Nov 14, 2008 - 10:35pm PT
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Two words, People:
8th graders
capiche?
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 14, 2008 - 10:37pm PT
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"The "left" has been a most intolerant bunch
Most inclined to mob mentality,
from Robespierre to Mao they have been the functionaries of mass murder. "
I'm going to enjoy watching these folks whine the next 4 years. :-)
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Jennie
Trad climber
Idaho Falls
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Nov 14, 2008 - 10:40pm PT
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Becoming a raging maniac hurling all manner of vile remarks is something quite different. I suspect that people's true colors came out. It is my belief based on experience on this forum that liberals are only "tolerant" of those people who line up with their own views.
A few Republicans, here, have done their share of name calling and hurling vile remarks, Lois. The trend toward incivility seems pretty level across the political spectrum. That's an opinion, does anyone have an incivility monitor?
Rush Limbaugh isn't the most courteous individual in the public eye. And yes, sometimes he's outright rude and disrespectful. The man's been a role model for conservative pundits since the advent of bottled gas. Rush's "Pearls of Wisdom", delivered with sarcasm and aplomb invite and incite "Pearls of Counter-Wisdom" returned to sender with accusatory rage.
You HAVE been a target for uncalled for, vile remarks and irrational rage. But that behavior is not just a liberal sickness. When a civilization descends into raging contention, ALL factions are huffing hate and puffing pride. Respectful dialogue turns snide and insulting. Objective communication decays to name calling and frivolous accusation.
I'll give you credit for clinging to the narrow edge of civility, Lois. (I haven't) But there are hurricanes of hate out there and the ill wind you're getting here is blowing from well outside the ST horizon. There's little accountability here, so if you're honest about your politics and religion, and they're not in fashion with the gang, you'll be targeted by more name calling rants and testosterone tantrums. (That's just where we are as a civilization.)
........but reading rock climber virulence on your computer screen is probably less hazardous than smelling Ann Coulter or Roseanne Barr's caustic breath
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Jeremy Handren
climber
NV
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Nov 14, 2008 - 10:40pm PT
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Hi Jim
I never see anyone in Red Rocks. These days I'm usually climbing in places where no one else goes.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 14, 2008 - 10:54pm PT
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Jim E
Apparently, it is a lesson you need to read. You post (literally) that you "hate" me because of xyz and then you do so on a very public website. God forbid anything awful should happen to me or a loved one and some DA or detective then asks - "can you think of anyone who hates you or has something against you?"
Well, Jack, you just posted for the whole world to read that you "hate" me and so now suddenly you are a person of interest. You all love to tell me how "stupid" I am. Perhaps I am not the one who is not too bright here. One simply does not (wisely) publish something like that on the internet. I just love the way you all tell me how "stupid" I am and then proceed to do some (supremely stupid) things which I in a million years would never dream of doing
All this coming from the only person on this forum to ever call me a bastard, SOB, and predator.
Please. Get over yourself.
edit: God forbid anything awful should happen to me or a loved one and some DA or detective then asks - "can you think of anyone who hates you or has something against you?"
This line is hilarious.
"Yes officer, there's this guy on the internet... he said he hated me once for my lack of vision". {officer roles his eyes}
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adam d
climber
CA
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Nov 14, 2008 - 11:24pm PT
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Fletcher...
Ron was definitely on the right track with "I think the Taco is fairly tolerant providing you understand how it is to be sketched out above mank" but he was referring back to this thread I think:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=712865&msg=713106#msg713106
and maybe other threads too where Lois was reminded that climbers share some common experiences...
Left/Right Liberal/Conservative labels don't do much for me. Neither do partisanship or nationalism. Hard to have a real discussion with someone when they speak in sweeping generalizations.
Buy a gun and let gays marry and don't spend more than you earn. And throw some money at your schools.
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Jim E
climber
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Nov 14, 2008 - 11:33pm PT
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So Jerry,
I take it you're still all about the "crag x".
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:06am PT
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:16am PT
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You went to the great huge MASSIVE effort of posting a pic, MisterE so she must be doing something right, amirite?
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Nov 15, 2008 - 12:24am PT
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I don't find it funny that this experiment turned out that way. Apparently this sort of behavior, usually attributed to non-liberals, afflicts portions of our whole population. What I am referring to is the post-election up tick in racial hate crimes, cross burning, and KKK related crimes and activity by some of the 46 million you associate with. Everyone expected these crimes to happen if Obama won, so this isolated incident becomes newsworthy because it mimics behavior not typical of Obama supporters.
"I guess "tolerance" only applies if one supports the other person's political position. I particularly found the death threats interesting." Following your advice, are we suppose to be more tolerant of cross-burning, racial hate crimes, and the KKK? In particular, what was it about the death threats that you found so interesting? Do you find all of the death threats Obama is getting particularly interesting too?
Finally, are you another Republican abandoning your party's name and substituting it with GOP now? Dino Rossi found it almost worked here in Washington. By the way, I almost wanted him to win.
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MisterE
Trad climber
My Inner Nut
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Nov 15, 2008 - 01:02am PT
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LOOK OUT! HERE IT COMES!!!
Come to blast you out of your happy place!!!
OH NOES!!!
IT'S THE DREADED
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Nov 15, 2008 - 01:26am PT
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LEB - One single comment in your article kinda lets me know where this columnists head is at. Here it is:
"In one class, I had one teacher say she will not judge me for my choice, but that she was surprised that I supported McCain," Catherine said.
If Catherine was shocked by such passive-aggressive threats from instructors, just wait until she goes to college." (notice the columnist states that this is passive aggressive, and a threat?)
The teacher stated that she was "surprised" at the child's choice of support in a way that was very non-confrontational in my opinion. The columnist then states that the child should wait for college.
For me, this column only points out this columnists Right Lean for mccain. What I mean by that is I've heard this very same type of talk from the right-of-the-right radio talk show rush limbaugh. I've heard this type of stuff from many right-slanting talking heads on all of the so-called Liberal Media. They (righty-righty) seem to think that simply to going to an mind opening college automatically places one into the liberal mindset and after that one cannot be reached.
I'm sorry LEB, but this time I cannot side with your pointing out the intolerance of Catherine's 8th grade class. I don't think that it was bravery when Catherine wore the "unique" shirt. Not only that, but this comes after the landslide vote. Mindless propaganda is what this is (my opinion) and if you can't see it for what it is.. Then I guess it's your time on this earth that is being wasted.
Mainly it only shows what this columnist is all about, and more about what it is to be an 8th grader in that school that Catherine attends. Bravery is not what this act was about. It wasn't about showing that tolerant people on the whole are really rather intolerant, because we all know that there are all types out there, some people are just more tolerant that others. It doesn't show/tell anything about the person wearing the shirt or her statements either. (How do we know she wasn't agitating people than writing down their responses to the agitation?)
You could have made a better point if you had pointed at this article and said "here is a child who wore a t-shirt supporting mccain that she made herself in a school where a majority of the student population supported Obama."(as did the entire country?) If you had, maybe you wouldn't be fielding all this unfortunate negativity.
Mister-E Edit: That should read "LeBong"
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