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Anastasia
climber
Not there
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Sep 18, 2008 - 03:40pm PT
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Brainwashing and Mind Control Methods
Relaxation, sleep depravation, meditation creates a higher state of suggestibility.
love bombing
acceptance/belonging
rewards
Diet that has no protein, removes the ability to reason and use logic. (Self think.)
Isolation within cult
financial commitment
dependancy
Removal from their former life; new name/location, status...
group pressure
uncompromising rules
Etc.
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Dr. Rock
Ice climber
Castle Rock
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Sep 18, 2008 - 03:41pm PT
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It never stops amazing me how people can make broad sweeping statements on topics they know absolutely nothing about.
Wait, thats ther definition of an internet forum, sorry.
There are volumes of good info there, can anybody explain one of the millions of concepts?
I did not think so.
But this is the norm, so don't worry.
No, I am not a Scientologist.
Just someone with an open mind.
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Sep 18, 2008 - 03:42pm PT
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What, pray tell, is "love bombing,"
and where do I sign?
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Sep 18, 2008 - 03:46pm PT
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RE:
" All I can say is what a f*#king fruit loop! Anyone who follows him/believes in this crap is a f*#king fruit loop too. Wow!"
amazing isn't it?
you gotta read Eric Hoffer/True Believer -
all about fanaticism and mass movements;
a tiny book it explains so much in language
for everyone.
For instance, I feel we are in the "middle"
of the biggest and most powerful mass movement
ever, it's called Consumerism; so omnipresent
and woven into the fabric of American culture as be
*almost* invisible...
Fanatics = scary people.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Sep 18, 2008 - 03:49pm PT
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Thanks, Sewellymon.
That told me more than anything so far.
Does Scientology have anything to do with *EST* (Werner Erhard's hustle)?
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Anastasia
climber
Not there
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Sep 18, 2008 - 03:49pm PT
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Dr. Rock,
L. Ron Hubbard Jr." is my expert. If you happen to be part of this religion, then get use to me calling it a cult. This link is L. Ron Hubbard Jr.'s take on his Dad's creation.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/scien240.html
You do know that practicing Scientology is banned in Greece, France, Germany and the United Kingdom.
AF
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 18, 2008 - 03:51pm PT
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"For instance, I feel we are in the "middle"
of the biggest and most powerful mass movement
ever, it's called Consumerism; so omnipresent
and woven into the fabric of American culture as be
*almost* invisible... "
Interesting thought.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
up Yonder (the edge of Treason)
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Sep 18, 2008 - 04:38pm PT
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Maybe Scientology is ok...I dunno....I just don't need any more cults around. I mean,Boise is already overrun with Mormons, fer crying out loud...
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GDavis
Trad climber
SoCal
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Sep 18, 2008 - 07:03pm PT
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Its almost as bad as "Science."
The world isn't 10,000 years old, YARIGHT! Idiots.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
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Sep 18, 2008 - 07:14pm PT
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More than anything, it kind of reminds me of the Heaven's Gate kooks! Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll find Tom and clan in the hotel in Clearwater, "waiting for the aliens".... You can never have too many cult mass-suicides... hahaha
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Nunya, America
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Sep 18, 2008 - 09:02pm PT
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Arrrrgh! Avast there, & belay that Foolharrrdiness!
Yaarrrrrr......
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Sep 18, 2008 - 09:06pm PT
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Dooooooodes, you found a way around the avatar thingy.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Sep 18, 2008 - 10:26pm PT
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hey there nafarius... and all... say, i got something mighty seriuos to add to all this:
nefarious... say, i really like that "punching-kittycat-icon" you got there by your name... keep it up....
cat's are so alert and intense sometimes, aren't they?
hmmmmm, come to think of it--so are some of he cats around here, as well... :)
:)
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Kartch
climber
belgrade, mt
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Sep 18, 2008 - 11:53pm PT
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Yeah, we should put down people we don't understand and try to create a culture of intolerance toward them and to those who have sympathy for them.
Or... we could take it one step further and refuse to talk to their leaders until they concede that democracy (shoot, I mean our ideas whatever they are - no reference to Iran in here) is better. That'll build bridges and create a better world, hell yeah it will.
Now if you'll excuse me some fat old guy, who invented the interweb, told me to buy a Prius or the world would end. I've also got to get my pressed organic Patagonia pants on so I look cool at the farmers market. After that I'm going to hang with my friends and laugh at people I don't care to understand because I've dismissed them based on one or two labels instead of trying to understand the whole picture. Hey it makes me feel better so don't be a hater about it.
Peace.
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rockermike
Mountain climber
Berkeley
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Sep 19, 2008 - 01:06am PT
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My first girl friend got picked up by a Scientologist offshoot group. After a short while she started banging her "auditor". I've been wounded ever since. ha, and a little negative.
Here's a church if you need one:
http://www.coltranechurch.org/ All are welcome and hierarchy and beliefs are transparent which is a good policy in this day of false prophets.
by the way, how the hell do you guys embed those moving images? That boxing cat is cool not to mention the buxom blond on another thread :)
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drgonzo
Trad climber
east bay, CA
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Sep 19, 2008 - 02:29am PT
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Nuthin'.
There's a sucker born every minute. Religion proves this in spades.
Next question...
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nutjob
Stoked OW climber
San Jose, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2008 - 08:35pm PT
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I don't think so many people are naturally "suckers"... but the basic human need to be accepted and appreciated is strong enough to override the otherwise better judgment of many folks.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 19, 2008 - 08:39pm PT
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Yes
A cheater will be sent to a cheater.
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Dr. Rock
Ice climber
http://tinyurl.com/4oa5br
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Sep 19, 2008 - 09:45pm PT
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I am a curious person, I love to explore altered states.
So anything like acid, shrooms, hasish, pot, liquor, vicodin, morophine, scientology, om, buhhda, heroin, qualudes, coke, unprotected sex with multiple partners, i am good for all of the above.
Don't get hung up on one thing, explore a little of each, then die.
if you want me to tell you what i gleaned from the scientology system for basically free, i will tell you.
the rest of the stuff you probably already have experience with.
I love the Moody Blues, they are Seizmologist with the L Ron Hubcap.
It is basically this.
Scientology and Dianetics are way f*#king cool if you actually take the time to read the books.
But the people involved in the org?
The all SUCK!
Therein, lies the main problem with Scientology.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Sep 19, 2008 - 09:59pm PT
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Whatever happened to the Moonies? Are they still around? Back around 1980 they had
a house on Bush St in SF. Someone said we could pop in for a free dinner, so we went
to check it out. They made us take our shoes off at the front door, and they collected
them all and put them in a closet. That made me a wee bit nervous. Then we listened to a
talk for a while before we were served dinner. After dinner, we were literally swarmed upon
by teams of three-on-one, each team including at least 1 very attractive young woman.
They were trying to get us to leave that evening to go to Booneville for the weekend, and
they were really pouring it on thick! It was like: "Come on, the bus is leaving in 30 minutes!
We'll have such a good time"... The girls were being very flirtatious. I was 19 at the time,
and yet this scared the living hell out of me, because by then I had already heard all
the stories that had already made the headlines, including families kidnapping their own
kids, and hiring "de-programmers" to try to undo the brainwashing. Anyway, we had a hard
time getting our shoes back so we could leave, and when we did, we were very glad to get outta there!
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