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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Feb 11, 2008 - 07:35pm PT
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Publicly suggesting shooting cops, running away from cops, stealing their cars, etc. won't win you any points with his bosses. They only undermine the letter-writing campaign.
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tdk
climber
puhoynix
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Feb 11, 2008 - 07:55pm PT
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A couple years back I pulled off Skyline briefly to let some people out of the car so as to shorten their walk in to Goat Rock, the car is still running, people clearly getting out and unloading gear, Miles roars up and threatens to ticket me for illegal parking. Another time he inspected my truck, saying "good thing you have a plate on the front or I'd have to ticket you". Wrote a letter, but since he's still at it, apparently it didn't do much good.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Feb 11, 2008 - 08:09pm PT
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dirtbag asks:
He cuffed a mountain biker?
That's outrageous!
Knott nearly as outrageous as pointing a gun at someone's face for the knott-so heinous crime
of riding on a hiking trail in Marin - someone who was clearly unarmed and posed no threat.
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Feb 11, 2008 - 08:45pm PT
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bluering - I have to say that yes, that man is THE TOOL. But I have to say a couple of things about your story I don't agree with, namely "I'm cranking some Rolling Stones in my truck and organizing all my gear and drinking a beer."
- This just seems to be asking to be Tooled.
Sorry, but you are only attracting attention with the music at volume. And just so you can hear your Stones,... it's pretty bad eticit. And while drinking a beer? Yeah, you were asking for it.
When in the Castle Rock area, I always assume that Climbers are hated, even though we bring in revenue equal to or more than the tourons. So I act accordingly. This does not mean I walk around constantly looking over my shoulder while lighting up one smoke or another, but I don't start the day by attracting attention to myself. I grab my gear and hustle to the crag. I've never had this problem, though now that I've said it, it just might happen next time I'm there.
- I go on:
"The parking lots are FULL. Some idiot even parked in between two trees that cuts off another 5-7 parking spaces."
- I don't have a remedy for this. I have parked in that spot before and luckily there was plenty of room elsewhere for people to park, so I didn't think anything of it. But, yes, noobs have to learn that parking space is limited and people should make as much room for others as possible.
"He passes me (after checking my plate) and I say, "Howdy". He returns the greeting. I see a couple of climbers I recognize (Charlie and some other dude) and I go over (Stones still crankin') and say hi. They also relay stories of getting tooled by Miles. I go back to my truck and he's writing somebody a ticket. He comes back by me and says, "You know I can issue a citation for playing music that's audible at 50 feet away?"."
- This, I have a problem with! I understand I just told you to lower the volume above, but when Tool starts making up new law out of nowhere, I have a problem with the tool.
At this point, I would have asked to see the book he got that law out of? If it was local law, I might have fought it, but then again , you did the right thing in turning down the music. You were on a public road, patroled by CHP. Let them write the ticket if they think its too loud. That jackass, TOOL!
"I say no, let me turn down the music. I then ask if they've ever considered putting a sign in between the trees saying, don't park here, you're blocking a section of the parking lot. He says, "I can write everybody here a ticket for parking perpindicular to the road, not parallel." I'm like, WTF? I didn't know that was a law either."
- Um, isn't there a sign right across the road warning to park parallel. Its a space saving technique. I'm surprised the Tool didn't see it that way? This is obvious f%king with and should not be tolerated. Turn him in to his boss ASAP.
"This guy just cruises around finding ways to f%ck with people. He gives law enforcement types a bad name."
- I second that motion.
- True, this guy does seem to go out of his way to make life difficult for others, specially climber types. I think it has something to do with late-life-bed-wetting issues or something. Abuse of power, at any level, is still abuse. And that's even if you're only following the letter of the law.
- In parting, just don't attract attention to yourself, you shouldn't have this problem.
- Post Standish Edit:
Just read the artical from above. Standish states:
"I use this and Highway 9 as major thoroughfares for patrolling. Highway 9 actually belongs to the State Parks Service; most people don't know that," he said."
- That's funny... How much money do you think the park system pays to maintain Highway 9? I'd like to see that rule. And if thats the case, what are all those CHP doing out there catching motorcycle riders all the time? Isn't that the job of the Rangers?
- Someones confused, maybe its me? Maybe this is also a self-promotion thing, kinda like "They can't do without me because I watch this whole area like a hawk..."
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cintune
climber
Penn's Woods
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Feb 11, 2008 - 10:41pm PT
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Some men you just can't reach.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Feb 11, 2008 - 11:35pm PT
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Seems like a LEO with a name like that, if he comes over to hassle you, the best thing you could do would be to put on your best John Wayne drawl and say:
"Well Howdy Pilgrim!"
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Feb 12, 2008 - 12:12am PT
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"Whatever you do, don't let things get out of hand like this - someone will get hurt. In this case, the cop got killed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8olEn237h8 "
They both ended up dead. How senseless.
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/articles/collision_course/
The cop may have enjoyed spraying the driver in the face with his pepper spray, but was it worth his life? The driver didn't draw on him until after he was sprayed. Gratuitously pepper spraying someone doesn't justify being murdered, but it is a good way to provoke it.
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malabarista
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Feb 12, 2008 - 12:19am PT
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I think this is the guy who had my friend's car towed while we were climbing in the park back in early 2000? Was he here back then? We had just come back from several months in Europe and my friend had out of state plates (Arizona) which had recently expired. He was getting new CA plates and we had just rented an apartment. The car was towed to Beaver Creek, it was after hours and we had no cell phones or way to get help. We had to call collect from a payphone to an old college buddy. The bill came to around $700. The a-hole had the nerve to ask us what the hell we were doing to in California. I've never met bigger f*#ktard!!!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2008 - 11:13am PT
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Jingy, you make some good points. I probably did deserve a "talkin' to", but this guy seems to derive a lot of pleasure from messing with peoeple.
Best to just keep a low profile around there and avoid him.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Feb 12, 2008 - 03:39pm PT
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A_P = LEO?
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SteveW
Trad climber
Denver, CO
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Feb 12, 2008 - 03:50pm PT
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As Stevep said, with a name like Miles, you know the
guy is taking on everyone in the world, who're all his enemies,
overcompensating for something he really lacks, like balls.
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Feb 12, 2008 - 04:11pm PT
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"How times have changed."
Nothing has changed.
"A_P = LEO?"
One, or close to one.
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cintune
climber
Penn's Woods
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Feb 12, 2008 - 04:30pm PT
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The best tactic is to avoid areas frequented by tools. If that's not possible, then try to blend in and lay low. They can't f*#k with you if they don't notice you. Any other approach is a calculated risk.
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jstan
climber
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Feb 12, 2008 - 05:24pm PT
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Don't youse guys read? From the California section of today's LA Times:
AUDIT CITES LAPD UNIT ON REVIEWS
...The 34 page report by the Police Commission's Inspector general raises questions about the Department's ability to police itself............
...in 29 (out of 60 cases) it found some sort of flaw......
..Deputy Chief Mark Perez, head of Internal Affairs said, "We take these things very seriously".............. saying "they( the reports) rarely if ever affect the decision of whether to discipline officers."
There. Do you all feel better now?
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cleo
Trad climber
Berkeley, CA
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Feb 12, 2008 - 05:36pm PT
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Miles Standish is not the only frightening cop at CRSP...
One named J. Rule threatened us with jailtime because we were entering our cars 15 minutes past sunset (it was still light, around 6:20 pm). He had us stand behind "a line" (imaginary) and screamed violently when one of us, completely astonished, apparently moved past "the line".
Us = 3 women and an infant. Yea, we're a scary bunch.
The cops at Big Basin Redwoods, however, have been very kind and reasonable.
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Joe
Social climber
Santa Cruz Mountains/Los Gatos
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Feb 12, 2008 - 06:38pm PT
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cleo, did you complain or write a letter?
I agree with previous posters. make some appropriate noise when that happens by contacting the employer. letters on file don't go away and ultimately may be brought up in performance reviews and can make a difference.
no reason to be treated that way.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Feb 12, 2008 - 06:46pm PT
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FWIW, Miles and company deal in an area where they have to be self sufficient. The nearest back up is going to be miles away.
However, there is a long history of Miles and company absolutely going after the barest infractions.
When we worked with him and Stu Langdoc and some Santa Cruz folks on the Castle Rock Climbing Committee, Miles actually was constructive and not 'up in people's faces'. I think the guy is just looking to be treated fairly and not have cigarette butts, and glass and beer cans left in the park. But with so many users, abuse of the park is bound to happen, so maybe he's burned out on it all.
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James
climber
A tent in the redwoods
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Feb 12, 2008 - 06:50pm PT
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My friend got a parking ticket up there once for being slightly over the parking line. It seemed excessive. I haven't had any confrontations with the rangers at the park but I'm rarely there on weekends.
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