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WBraun
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Aug 14, 2018 - 07:47pm PT
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They all describe in one fashion or another reality.
Description is still NOT reality.
Reality is "AS IT IS".
By the time you describe it it's NOT "AS It IS" anymore ......
You can describe carrying a bucket of water,
But it will never be carrying a bucket of water!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 14, 2018 - 07:53pm PT
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“There is no beginning, the beginning is only in your thought.”
“For instance, we need to look with our eyes to laugh,” he said, “because only when we look at things can we catch the funny edge of the world. On the other hand, when our eyes see, everything is so equal that nothing is funny.”
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 14, 2018 - 08:00pm PT
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Reality reveals itself to oneself when one dovetails their actions with reality itself.
The gross materialists say "There is no need for reality".
Thus reality will never reveal itself to them and thus the gross materialists will mental speculate what that "As it Is" actually is.
The gross materialists whole business is guessing, masqueraded as so-called science ....
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Aug 14, 2018 - 08:18pm PT
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You can describe carrying a bucket of water,
But it will never be carrying a bucket of water
However, your attempts at description may allow you to connect with someone else who has done something similar.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 14, 2018 - 08:31pm PT
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all description falls short
and many introduce what is in fact not there...
Yes, just see, Xcon has intelligence and isn't trying to be "smart" .....
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 14, 2018 - 08:45pm PT
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DMT is trying to be smart ......
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 14, 2018 - 09:06pm PT
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"The way I see it, you want to cling to your arguments, despite the fact that they bring nothing to you; you want to remain the same even at the cost of your well-being."
"I don't know what you're talking about."
"I am talking about the fact that you're not complete. You have no peace."
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Aug 14, 2018 - 10:41pm PT
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Pi - it explains everything - or maybe QM does - or whatever. Seems like the less a person knows about math, modern physics, etc, the more they’re able to use it to explain things - that they also know very little about. Intellectual spaghetti - definitely.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 15, 2018 - 06:56am PT
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These fools quickly lose sight of the fleeting reality since they don't even know what that reality is itself.
Then their minds start running amok, around in circles, spinning wheels .....
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Aug 15, 2018 - 10:26am PT
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From the AMS Notices in 2002, I think this pretty much describes what a mathematician is:
". . . . the maid of a famous mathematician, when asked what her employer did all day, reported that he wrote on pieces of paper, crumpled them up, and threw them into the wastebasket."
That about says it all.
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nafod
Boulder climber
State college
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Aug 15, 2018 - 11:19am PT
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These fools quickly lose sight of the fleeting reality since they don't even know what that reality is itself 2+2=4 everywhere in the universe
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Jim Clipper
climber
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Aug 15, 2018 - 11:31am PT
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WBraun is trying to be dumb.
Description is just as much a part of reality as anything else.
not trying, & not dumb
I can't speak for him absolutely though
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 15, 2018 - 12:16pm PT
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2+2=4 everywhere in the universe
On the absolute platform (2+2=1) (10x34=1) (35 divided by 4 = 1) and on and on.
The gross materialist mathematician does not have this realization ever .....
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Don Paul
Social climber
Washington DC
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Aug 15, 2018 - 12:59pm PT
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DMT a language like English is like a top level operating system for your brain. Although the computer analogy only goes so far. On the other hand most math needs to be written out on paper and is anything but intrinsic to brain function. For example if you want to learn a new language I recommend the pimsleur courses which have no written component. It's how you learned your first language as a baby.
Alex Honnald definitely has some relation to Mr Spock lol.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Aug 16, 2018 - 12:35am PT
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Yep. Largo would have you instead believe an omnipotent monolithic awareness is always on the prowl for new things to subjectively experience as opposed to the subconscious alerting the conscious mind that it might want to sit up and pay attention to something new...
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jstan
climber
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Aug 16, 2018 - 02:04am PT
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Two seconds is too long. A predator would be on you before you would gain first awareness. I could almost see a two second delay for memories to be called up to verify what the image was and the level of the threat. It may take a second or so to detect motion. We are incredibly good at detecting low frequency noise. Rastering of the eye may be involved in image differencing to allow this. What is the frequency of this rastering?
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Aug 16, 2018 - 03:55am PT
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2+2=1
Depends on what you're counting. If you're counting rotations of 120 degrees then 2+2=1 is true in terms of the final position of an object.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Aug 16, 2018 - 02:20pm PT
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From my link above:
"But something miraculous happens inside our brains to make us conscious and experience the world from a subjective perspective."
Thought this might please Largo.
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