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rhyang
Ice climber
SJC
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Not surprising about the 'disposability' ... I did some work for a company doing cellular handsets in 2003; I think the usual life span of a handset at that time was typically projected to be about a year. I don't imagine it's any longer now.
btw I noticed while shipping a package at a USPS office recently free shipping bags for recycling used printer toner cartridges and old cell phones. The address was somewhere in Kentucky as I recall.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2007 - 02:10pm PT
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Kim wrote:
This thing doesn't have a replaceable battery. You have to send it into the factory. The battery only lasts for 300-400 cycles. Question: what are you gonna do when you have to send the phone in for 2-3 weeks? Go without a phone?
http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/
During the 3 day turnaround time, you could take out the SIM card and use it
in another GSM phone.
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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I hate™ backdating stock options..
Whatever happened with all that (not just apple, eh)? All the heads seem obsessed with Islam, not "true fraud"...
When was the first Blackberry post anyhoos(?)
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2007 - 02:18pm PT
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Good grief - the iHaters™ are really grasping at straws these days...
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Full disclosure, 1st gen iPod, no battery issues. Clunky but works fine years later. Posting from a G4 (10.2.8 ol'sckool) for more "gravitas"...
Never heard a (knott) a thing on Fox News about "back dates"...nor on MSNBCNN...you?
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kimgraves
Trad climber
Brooklyn, NY
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Knott,
Good try at the save.
But Priority mail to is 3 days. Who knows how they'll ship back - shipping is $6.95 so I assume also Priority mail - 3 days. Plus 3 days turn around = 9 business days = 2 weeks as I said. And since all these phones are going to fail at once there will be delays = 3 weeks.
Plus the reviews say that the SIMs don't fit in other phones.
Ergo - you're out of luck for the duration. But for $600 Jobs has an option called "IIPhone" - followed by IIIPhone the following year.
I know. I have the solution. Apple can offer phone-free vacation get-aways while they're serviceing your phone. What should they call it? How about - "The iPhoneVacation."
Listen, in all seriousness, whatever floats your boat is great. And you're right. I am going to go play with it. But I'm not going to drink. ;-)
Best, Kim
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2007 - 02:42pm PT
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Kim - that's a 3 day turnaround. Send on Monday, receive on Wed or Thurs.
BTW, my Macbook battery was eligible for replacement under the recall program.
After I called them, they sent me a new one - received it the next day.
I put the old battery in the box they provided, and they received it the next day.
Kim wrote:
Plus the reviews say that the SIMs don't fit in other phones.
Knott true. You really shouldn't read those iHater reviews. They are a wee bit biased...
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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So basically your reaction is positive?
I barely use the cell phone I have now, but I can imagine wasting time in all kinds of new ways and places with one of those.
Maybe when the $ comes down, and it's a few generation down the road ....
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2007 - 03:31pm PT
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I really had no interest in the iPhone when they were announced in Jan. In fact, I was
a bit annoyed that Macworld SF basically became iPhoneWorld™. But after seeing
them and finally getting to play with one, I want one. I neeeeeeeed one!
Browsing the web is unreal. I loaded Supertopo, then flipped the thing on its side.
I was able to read threads without having to zoom in, once the text was zoomed
enough to fit the screen. BTW, it was using the EDGE network, knott WiFi, and yet
the pages loaded fast enough (EDGE is said to be 3 - 4 times faster than dial-up).
Google Maps is fantastic. Type in an address, and the map pops up in an instant.
Zoom in by pinching fingers together, zoom out by pinching out. Switch to satellite
view with a tap. To me, this thing is worth the money for the web-browsing and maps alone.
Then you have the Visual Voicemail, which lets you pick and choose messages in any order.
I admit it - knott only am I a devout iKoolaid-drinking Apple fanboy, I'm also a gadget freak.
And as much as the iHaters hate to admit, this is (by far) the coolest gadget in a long time.
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Andrew
Trad climber
Marin
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I like new toys as much as the next guy but the iPhone, besides the cool interface and spiffy case, is missing some features that I currently have with my Dell Axim and LG Phone.
First off, here are a few features that I belive it doesn't have.
Songs as ringtones
Games
Flash Support
Instant Messaging
Picture Messages
Video Recording
Voice Recognition or Voice Dialing
Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming
Standard Headset Jack
3G (EVDO on Verizon)
GPS
Removeable Battery
Expandable Storage (SD and CF)
Those are all features I have with my 2 year old PDA and my Bluetooth LG Phone. My Axim cost me $250 2 years ago and my phone was $80 last year. I also don't need a minimum service contract including $20 for the crappy Edge network.
Oh, and I currently own a MacBook, grew up with the Apple + and had a Mac SE. I still prefer using my PC for most tasks but I'm by no means an Apple hater.
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spyork
Social climber
A prison of my own creation
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I don't get it, apparently.
If a phone casts more than 50 bucks, its out of my range.
The fad waves of PDA/Crackberry/IPhone wash over me and I am left unimpressed.
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Moof
Trad climber
A cube at my soul sucking job in Oregon
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So far I'm on my second cell. The first one lasted 3 years till my SO accidentially washed it. I just don't understand the mindset of folks who change theirs every 6 months. It's a phone. Get a life.
Cell phones, cable TV, and hate talk radio. Opium for the masses.
We're overdue for a good revolution and herd thinning.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2007 - 04:05pm PT
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Moof - LOL!
Would that be an iRevolution™?
Speaking of opium, I wonder how many people think nothing of blowing $$$ on 8-balls of coke,
(or several hundred dollars a month on booze), and then bleat on about over-priced gadgets?
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wootles
climber
Gamma Quadrant
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Speaking of opium. I wonder how many people think nothing of blowing $$ on an 8-ball
of coke, let alone several hundred dollars a month on booze, and then moralize about over-priced gadgets?
WOW. Where did that come from? iWTF?
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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yeah, heh, iwtf...I'm still 'waitin on the datin'..guess those Q-10s must have "gone thru"...
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2007 - 04:19pm PT
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I'm just sayin'...
While the only coke I enjoy comes in a can, I've been known to down a beer or three.
(and FWIW, the worst flames (by far) I ever got on rec.climbing came from a coke-fiend).
Without iDigressing too much, I took a break from the beer for a month and bought
50 ultra-light carabiners (DMM Pro Lights) with the $400.00 saved.
So I'll I gotta do is knott drink for 1 1/2 months and I'll have an iPhone!
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kimgraves
Trad climber
Brooklyn, NY
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Knott,
Your uncle Stevie has an in with the Post Office?
From the link you provided:
"How long will service take?
The repair process normally takes three business days."
Whatever. Even three days is too long for those people who live on (read do business) on their cell phones.
But contrary to your assertion that I'm an IHater, while I think this device has serious flaws, I do think the interface will open up a lot of possibilities. My "wife" who is a technology writer was telling me about a new OS that MS is working on similar to the Tom Cruise "Minority Report". Clearly touch screen interfaces are coming - I hope sooner rather than later: I hate the mouse.
I had a PDA called a Psion which had a touch screen - I loved it. Face it Knott, as you said you're a gear head. That's fine. Stevie need people to beta test his stuff. You're it. Have at it and get back to us. I'll wait for IIIIPhone just like I wait for two years to get the "latest" iteration of Windows.
Best, Kim
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mark miller
Social climber
Reno
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I was just thinking about that and if I didn't drink good beer for 3 months I could pay off my mortgage 10 years earlier.............nahhhhh I'll stick with the beer. I run windows and the mac OSX on my mac pro and anyone who thinks windows is better is sucking the fat one and driving around with a ol' W in 04' sticker on their car bumpers...
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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6 weeks w/no Toronado? I do knott like your chances, HK!
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