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G_Gnome

Trad climber
Knob Central
Jun 8, 2007 - 07:08pm PT
It's getting so that anyone can legally buy, carry and smoke the stuff here in Cali. There are a million docs willing to write you a prescription for it. Hell, I have friends whose only job is selling the stuff legally.
Oli

Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
Jun 8, 2007 - 07:36pm PT
Now that was a funny one, "If I recall none of the Stonemasters got stoned."
caughtinside

Social climber
Davis, CA
Jun 8, 2007 - 07:41pm PT
James, there's only one climber I know who does that.

But what was he jamming to? It's usually green day or incubus when I climb with him.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jun 8, 2007 - 09:25pm PT
Although use of the demon weed is quite widespread among society in general, as athletes in particular go, climbers seem characteristicaly to be a pretty heavy user group.

I'd say it has to do partly with a couple things: one, that historicaly speaking climbers tended to be given to experimental means and fringe culture, a bit bohemian in inclination if you will. Also they, we, are accustomed to a high degree of stimulation.

As to the onset of problems with it later in life, hmmm, sometimes, like when I take one too many drags man, I turn white, head rush fiercly, and my waxy physique spirals all the way down to the deck. A bit of research indicates that it may have something to do with altered cerebral perfusion.

But as the Warbler said, maybe don't try to make too much out of it, and also, hey: just don't bogart that joint, ...'K?



Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jun 9, 2007 - 08:56am PT
OK OK I heard you.















What'jou say????
Levy

Big Wall climber
So Cal
Jun 9, 2007 - 12:34pm PT
Well said Roy. That about sums it up.

I'm feeling waayy too lazy to write more and I forgot what I was saying.
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Jun 9, 2007 - 01:51pm PT
geez you guys, don't hold on to that thing too long, pass it over here!
Oli

Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
Jun 9, 2007 - 02:06pm PT
The stone masters were so high they actually thought they were the best climbers in America rather than the usual provincial talent.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jun 9, 2007 - 02:42pm PT
Now, now gentlemen, we all know that climbing in full conditions is in keeping with the finest traditions of Alpinism. Local definitions simply vary widely....LOL
Plenty of room on the stage for the talented and bold.
John Moosie

climber
Jun 9, 2007 - 03:43pm PT
Hey Riley,

You are correct. Drugs do have adverse affects including marijauna. My problem with the whole scenerio is that alcohol has bad affects too. I would prefer to see us treat marijuana like alcohol. Legalize it. Then tax the crap out of it and use that tax money to pay for drug treatment, hospital emergency rooms and for fighting the other drugs. This way we take the money out of the drug dealers hands and put it where it can do some good.

Making marijuana illegal hasn't slowed its use down much, it has just put the money in the criminals hands. Of course some think our government is criminal, but that is another story. Haha...

If you look at the history of marijuana you will see the growers working harder and harder to produce a plant with very high THC. If I remember correctly, the average bud in the 60s had 3 to 6 percent THC. Most plants had around one percent. Now it has a range from 12 percent to close to 30 percent. One of the reasons growers worked so hard to make it stronger was because it was illegal and if it was stronger, then they didn't have to grow so much and the user didn't have to carry so much.

Now, instead of a joint being like drinking a beer, a joint is more like drinking a 12 pack or even a case. That is if you even could smoke a joint by yourself. Role a fatty of todays bud and smoke it down and most people would end up on the floor for the rest of the day. I know, I know, there are some hardcore smokers out there. I use to be one of them.

Legalize pot and tax it. It could solve some problems. Especially by taking money away from criminals and giving it to those upstanding citizens, the tobacco producer. haha....
Oli

Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
Jun 10, 2007 - 12:53am PT
What an incredibly original idea: stonemasters. I wonder where they could have come up with such a unique name. Sounds a little like, but certainly not from, the original and true MASTER OF ROCK, John Gill...
Chico

Trad climber
Mt. Shasta, CA
Jun 10, 2007 - 03:32am PT
Heeeeyyyy, watcha doin' down there?


Funny story:

A few years back my buddy and I ran into a very prominent climber, who will remain nameless, at the base of Snake Dike. There were a ton of people on the route already, so we had time to kill, and shoot the breeze. Well, conversation drifted, and before long I was packing up some on NorCal's finest. We all got really, really stoned, and were getting ready to take off on the climb. He took off and started soloing the route. We were looking at each other thinking, Holy Sh!t, there is no way I would be able to keep it together for that! OMG, if he falls and dies, we are going to feel like total ass#oles forever!
With sweaty palms, and sewing machine legs, we took off up the route. Above us we could hear him yelling at the top of his lungs, "Woooo Hoooo! Ride the snake man! Hey, howz it going? My name is ___. Cool man. Hey, smile for the camera." He was hamming it up the whole way.


It was definitely a revealing experience. Since then, I save it for bivies, or back at camp, sitting around the fire. Some people get amped, others get sketched out, while others forget to place gear. It shouldn't be too hard to figure out why people do it in the first place. The question is: If you smoke, what kind of stoner are you, and can you keep under control. If you can, then tally ho! If you can't then you are just a slave to a vice, and you really need to get help, because it is a powerful drug...If it did nothing, nobody would use it.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jun 10, 2007 - 09:10am PT
Only weak fags and pussies smoke pot on the wall.

Real men drop the Big D, or at the very least, eat a poison mushroom or toxic cactus.

Bill Blasty used to lick a frog's butthole, and then charge up the face like a lunatic.

Let's try to keep things in perspective.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jun 10, 2007 - 10:29am PT
Grossman Wrote:
“Now, now gentlemen, we all know that climbing in full conditions is in keeping with the finest traditions of Alpinism”.

I must say, at times I felt as though climbing stoned was essentially performing with a mental weight belt: akin to mental resistance training if you will.

Oli wrote:
“The stone masters were so high they actually thought they were the best climbers in America rather than the usual provincial talent”.

Incidentally, what with Oli’s somewhat mis-worded yet astute and appropriate concession as to the observable order of things, you know, what with the Stone Masters demonstrating superior climbing feats in comparison to their Rockies brethren, a little fun-sized, zig zag ensconced handicap seemed to be in order.

Respectfully Yours,
Tarbuster.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jun 10, 2007 - 12:26pm PT
Right on Roy. Kinda like doing the Third in rollerskates....
Oli

Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
Jun 10, 2007 - 07:13pm PT
That's exactly what they thought too, not knowing what was happening in the Rockies at all. There are and were great climbers in all the areas. That's what I learned and know to be true.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jun 10, 2007 - 07:27pm PT
Hahaha!
Too true Oli.
'Quite an inspirational legacy with all these efforts eh?
Largo

Sport climber
Venice, Ca
Jun 10, 2007 - 10:15pm PT
I heard about some of the guys smoking marajuana but I'm not sure I ever saw this first hand. Never touchd the stuff myself.

JL
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jun 10, 2007 - 11:44pm PT
Ho Man!
All hail the White Rastafarian!
Oli

Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
Jun 11, 2007 - 01:20am PT
I'll confess to something bizarre. I think it was the early 1970s, and I was in a very bad, dark place in my mind that I couldn't get out of. I met a pretty girl who worked at a restaurant in the student union at Colorado University. We got to talking, and she invited me to her house, later after she got off work. She lived with several other house mates. I didn't have any courage at that moment in time and so decided to drink some wine. I found a store and bought -- no, not a bottle, but -- a jug and swaggled it. It was dark out, but I somehow made my way by foot, wandering through campus and up the hill to her house. I asked some of her roommates which room was hers. They pointed to a room, and I went in and sat on the bed. Then I felt sleepy and decided to lean over onto the bed, with my head on her pillow, and take a short nap until she arrived. I woke up, just as I threw up about a cup of wine on her pillow. I was horrified and realized this wouldn't do at all, for her to arrive and discover this situation. Unable to think of any other solution, I ran out the door of the house and away into the night. I saw her a few days later, by pure chance, and she smiled at me and asked how I was. I couldn't say much and ambled away. Was anyone ever that bizarre on marijuana?
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