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hossjulia
Trad climber
Eastside
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May 15, 2007 - 06:05pm PT
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without reading the rest of this thread and risking repitition, I second what karl says! Why the heck BUY water? I get mine from a large spring in Lee Vining Canyon.
When I went on a trip to Spain a couple of years ago, I made it a point of drinking the tap water everywhere I went. At 2 euros for a pint, no way was I buying water everywhere! Not a problem. Some of it tasted funky, but most was just fine. Some of the best was at Heathrow! Heck even the de-salinated water at this one resort I was at tasted and drank fine.
Getting folks to serve me tap water was a hoot. If they hesitated, I asked them if something was wrong with it. That always got some funny responses. Did not get a single reply that indicated I should NOT drink the water, and I saw employee's drinking tap water everywhere.
I buy water in LA and SD
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - May 15, 2007 - 06:11pm PT
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Thanks to Ron, Fern Springs is better protected. Kudos
For Folks who don't mind the idea of treated water, the regular Yosemite water tastes great.
Some of my hippie friends are using Stainless Steel and Glass to store water these days. Anybody have info on plastic leaching into water over time? If so, how bad is that for you or not? (TIG can't answer, he doesn't think poison exists)
I know wall water get's seriously funked when the sun shines on the clear plastic for days or weeks, but what about around the house?
Our bodies are overwhelmingly made of water. Let's make it as good as we can.
PS for around the house, those britta filters make the tap water taste fine way cheaper than buying it. At a minimum, buy your water in bulk at the supermarket rather than in bottles
Peace
Karl
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Wade Icey
Social climber
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May 15, 2007 - 06:12pm PT
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hossjulia- if your spring is accessable by car- you may want to read the posts re: fern spring, or at least take a short hike around the area.
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Knob Central
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May 15, 2007 - 06:16pm PT
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How is the water on Tioga Pass near the ranger station at the bottom of the hill? Is this spring water?
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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May 15, 2007 - 06:18pm PT
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G_Gnome: That water is the sh#t. Lived off of it for 4 summers. Yummy yum.
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Ouch!
climber
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May 15, 2007 - 06:18pm PT
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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May 15, 2007 - 06:22pm PT
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Ouch! brilliantly answers the question of what bears do in the woods...
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Wade Icey
Social climber
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May 15, 2007 - 06:23pm PT
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since the "falls" is about six inches high, shouldn't that cub be wearing disposable diapers?
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looking sketchy there...
Social climber
Latitute 33
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May 15, 2007 - 06:25pm PT
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And other than filling up at Coyote Corner, Nomads or some other establishment, where exactly is a person to find water (potable or otherwise) actually in "Josh?"
Just so no one is confused by the inference in the Post Title, there is No Water available in the Park.
So fill up your water bottles at home or at some establishment in town before driving into the Park.
Tap water in the Valley rules, the springs are way too dicey. Human waste is everywhere.
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Eastside
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May 15, 2007 - 06:29pm PT
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The fill station at the old Utility Rd is treated water. Good treated water, for free, courtisy of the US Gov.
The spring I use is up the road on the right, covered by a spring house. Dosn't mean it's safe, just that I hate drinking chlorine.
I've been drinking untreated surface water in the Eastern Sierra's for 10 years without a problem, but I am mostly aware of where it was before my gut. I use common sense, and keep in mind that I am probably immune to crypto after all these years. I do not reccomend doing this unless you live here and are intimate with the water sources. (What's upstream, etc.)
by and by, and why I even mention MY drinking habits, is I think we are duped into thinking ALL surface water,and some piped water, is unsafe. You hear all the time that ALL surface water in the US is contaminated by Giardia or something else. B.S. Big B.S. True, there is plenty of questionable water, but it's not all contaminated, not by a long shot.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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May 15, 2007 - 06:31pm PT
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I believe potable water is available at the 29 Palms entrance station. Maybe also the Joshua Tree end. Can't speak for its quality. Restaurants and gas stations are also possibilities, and no doubt the locals have other sources.
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Fletcher
Trad climber
Varied locales along the time and space continuum
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May 15, 2007 - 06:35pm PT
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Plastic water bottles are also a problem:
In the USA: More than 60 million plastic bottles end up in landfills and incinerators every day – a total of about 22 billion last year.
From http://container-recycling.org/mediafold/newsarticles/plastic/2006/5-WMW-DownDrain.htm
Holy cow!!!!
Whenever I take my kids out in the kiddie-jogger for a run, I usually pick up one or two... then I take 'em to the Cal. CRV recycling place and turn 'em in while jockeying with all the colorful street people. It's all part of being a Jr. Dirtbag!
Fletch
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Fletcher
Trad climber
Varied locales along the time and space continuum
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May 15, 2007 - 06:39pm PT
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Yeah, whoever figured out how to sell water is a marketing genius. It is way more expensive than gas, usually.
Whatever happened to drinkin' from the hose on a hot summer day!!!
It's big, big business. Aquafina and Dasani are owned by Coke and Pepsi. Just "purified" tap water. Way less expensive to make than sugar water, I bet.
Fletch
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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May 15, 2007 - 06:59pm PT
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Tap water is purified water.
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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May 15, 2007 - 07:11pm PT
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Wade Icey,
The areas you cleaned up during the Facelift are two of the worst areas in the Park with the other turnouts not too far behind. It is because of the area between 120/140 intersection and Pohono Bridge that motivated me to organize the cleanup. I was so pissed off at people for years at their disrespect of the Park and finally decided to turn it into a more positive and educational outlet or else I would lose it.
Everybody should thank you and everybody else for doing that horrendous job last year. My hat is off to you. It is unpleasant and an eyeopener. Unfortunately, it will probably be just as bad this year. I am sorry that you threw up. I have come close myself a few times while carting around those damn bags of crap.
Ken
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maldaly
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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May 15, 2007 - 07:13pm PT
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Karl Baba,
You hit the nail on the head. There is very little need, ever, to buy water in bottles. Even a brief visit to any roadside ditch or un-swept beach will open your eyes to the problem of plastic water bottles.
They are ruining our planet..along with plastic grocery bags.
Let's quit using all of them.
Nalgene bottles off-gas a substance called bisphenol A. It's a by-product of manufacturing polycarbonate (Lexan) and either mimics or interferes with (I forget which) estrogen absorbtion. This has correlated with ADHD, hypercativity disorder and other developmental issues. You can see all the research here: http://www.ourstolenfuture.com/
I tossed all my Nalgene and am using the cool bottles from Sigg. The taste of pure water is amazing.
Stay healthy,
Mal
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Wade Icey
Social climber
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May 15, 2007 - 07:35pm PT
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Hey Ken-
Hope you're well.
I don't want my post to throw a negative light on the Facelift. Thanks to you and everyone who participated it was ultimately one of the greatest times I've spent in the ditch. It's on the calendar for this year. The real heroes are the folks who sorted through the TONS of crap we brought in. Definitely educational and eye opening, (and definitely not the first time I've heaved in yosemite). I highly reccomend it to anyone who has spent any time in the ditch (the Facelift part).
Steve
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Jude Bischoff
Ice climber
Palm Springs
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May 15, 2007 - 08:15pm PT
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Thank you for your clean up efforts everyone.
I have been drinking back country Sierra water for years without filtering. It is the sweetest nectar of the Gods. I read a study a while back in backpacker that tested water throughout the back country and found no issues other than where there were human encampments.
Common sense and looking upstream are a big consideration. The only time I got sick was when the spring I thought I was drinking from ran across the horse sh#t infested switch back.
6 to 8 cayenne pepper pills are great for giardia.
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Nor Cal
Trad climber
San Mateo
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May 15, 2007 - 08:30pm PT
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karl, is this the water that brings out the hard-man-climber in you?
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